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Date:      Fri, 19 Feb 2021 19:44:27 +0000
From:      Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, Brandon Bergren <bdragon@freebsd.org>, Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "<dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>" <dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org
Subject:   mips binaries (was: Re: git: 24fd63e0970f - main - mips: Don't set __NO_TLS to disable some uses of TLS.)
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 09:14:07AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> FWIW: Mips likely can play the 'not very popular tier 2 card trending
> towards tier 3' card, at least for 13 since (a) 13.0 isn't out yet and
> (b) the project doesn't produce mips binaries.

(Before I go too far, I am presuming the above means "mips32 binaries
from the src tree".)

So here is a relevant question about mips.

In a discussion about building packages for more varieties of powerpc,
Philip Paeps has advised both myself and Piotr Kubaj that we are banging
up against the limits of what our mirrors can handle.

It looks as though we are still publishing the following:

  FreeBSD:11:mips (only quarterly is updated)
  FreeBSD:12:mips (only quarterly is updated)
  FreeBSD:13:mips

(source: https://pkg.freebsd.org/)

Given the lack of src binaries, and the poor state of mips* binaries
on both 32 and 64, I speculate that all of our mips32 users are building
their own bits.

If this is the case, I would like to make the motion that we remove
mips32 package bits from the mirrors, so that we can instead start
publishing binaries for:

  FreeBSD:13:powerpc64le
  FreeBSD:14:riscv64

which IMVVHO are "tier-1 aspirational".

Discussion?

mcl



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