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Date:      Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:27:03 -0500 (EST)
From:      Mikhail Teterin <mi@aldan.algebra.com>
To:        jkh@winston.freebsd.org
Cc:        jhb@FreeBSD.org, winter@jurai.net, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org, pst@pst.org, des@ofug.org, imp@village.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/sysinstall install.c installUpgrade 
Message-ID:  <200204031827.g33IR39r046085@aldan.algebra.com>
In-Reply-To: <28699.1017857530@winston.freebsd.org>

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On  3 Apr, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>> But .zip is noticeably bigger than .tar.gz. Not to mention, .tar.bz2.
>> And the package size is what's of the highest priority, IMHO, since
>> disks and especially bandwidth don't grow nearly as fast as the CPU
>> speeds.
>
> You must live outside the US, that's all I can say. That assertion is
> completely false here.

Newton, MA. Thank you.
 
> I would also argue that package size is of the highest priority -
> that's patently untrue.  What's the highest priority in packaging
> formats is providing enough power and mechanism to make the package
> installation experience a lot more robust and user-friendly.

Oh, "experience" -- what a great marketing word! It isn't pleasant,
if each package is 20% bigger than it can be (.gz vs. bz2) and someone
is advocating another 20% (?) bump (.zip vs. tar.gz). And why? Because
we can't figure out the best place to extract it in?

> Disks are getting so cheap and so large (in even the most humble user
> configurations) that I'd probably put package size _last_.

> I also live in the middle of the woods with redwood trees and all
> sorts of wildlife around and even I have 1.5MBit worth of downstream
> bandwidth via my ADSL line. Just imagine how well-connected all those
> city people must be! :-)

Are you suggesting we ignore the dial-up modem users? No amount of
patented smileys can smooth that up, you know :-)

	-mi



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