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Date:      04 Jun 2003 21:45:33 +0200
From:      Kern Sibbald <kern@sibbald.com>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        freebsd-threads@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD pthread_equal "bug"
Message-ID:  <1054755933.13606.549.camel@rufus>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0306041129130.2846-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0306041129130.2846-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>

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On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 20:35, Julian Elischer wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Jeff Roberson wrote:
> 
> > On 4 Jun 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what the POSIX specification says,
> > > if I were programming it, I would not be content
> > > with the FreeBSD current implementation especially
> > > considering that both Solaris and Linux do it "correctly".
> > 
> > Would you rather your application failed immediately, or in a subtle,
> > unexpected way after many hours/weeks/months of run time?  Dan says the
> > standard allows for immediate reuse.  If that is correct, then Solaris,
> > linux, and FreeBSD all do it correctly for the only definition of
> > correctly that matters.
> > 
> > Simply adding an ID is problematic because the ids will wrap.  Without
> > using some deterministic notification you can't be sure that it isn't an
> > expired thread.
> 
> 
> I will quote from "Programming with Posix threads"
> by David R Butenhof..
> He is one o fthe main authors of the Posix threads standard so 
> I tend to treat this book as a guide..
> 
> "Once a thread is recycled, the thread's ID (pthread_t) is no longer
> valid. You cannot join with the thread, canel it, or anything else. The
> terminated thread's ID (which may be the addess of a system data
> structure) may be assigned to a new thread. Instead of receiving an
> ESRCH failure from your call to pthread_cancel, you would instead cancel
> a different thread."
> 
> I think that is pretty explicit as far as expected bahaviour.
> 
> HAVING SAID THAT, it is not impossible that at some time in the future
> we may use some other pthread_t type, e.g an incrementing TID,
> but at this time I think we are well within the standard...
> 
> 
> Julian
> 

Nice quote. I've already headed the warning. Sorry for bothering you.



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