Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 19:28:07 +0100 From: David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org> To: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." <sfourman@gmail.com>, toolchain@freebsd.org, Boris Samorodov <bsam@passap.ru>, FreeBSD Current <current@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: GCC withdraw Message-ID: <6668F65C-812F-4069-83CE-7F8CF3316527@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20130901180350.GA12351@lonesome.com> References: <20130822200902.GG94127@funkthat.com> <201308291344.25562.jhb@freebsd.org> <A981C965-D625-458B-B0AB-171C983AEA42@FreeBSD.org> <201308301041.18874.jhb@freebsd.org> <20130901180350.GA12351@lonesome.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On 1 Sep 2013, at 19:03, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote: > If this is the case, IMHO: I was going to quote the whole mail, but actually this is enough. As I have already said in this thread, there is no such plan. I repeat, for those who missed it the first time: On 30 Aug 2013, at 16:11, David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > I am not proposing: > > ... > > - To deprecate any architectures > > - To break any architectures If a platform ends up without a working toolchain in a few years and there is no way (LLVM, recent GCC, heavily patched old GCC, vendor-supplied toolchain) of building it, then we will have to make the decision about its future. Whether that means getting the Foundation and / or some other interested body to pay for someone to work on a toolchain or dropping support is an issue for stakeholders in the platform. We will probably have to make this call about at least IA64 in a couple of years, and possibly some PowerPC and SPARC variants, but it's not a decision that needs to be made any time soon. I know SemiHalf does a lot of embedded FreeBSD work with PowerPC and a few people do with SPARC, so there are definitely people with vested interests in maintaining those two platforms. I'd honestly be surprised if IA64 is around in two years (mind you, I've been expecting it to die for the last five, so I'm willing to be surprised again), but maybe there will be a lot of cheap second-hand IA64 hardware on the market as all of the big customers switch to something else reviving interest in the platform... David [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSI4c3AAoJEKx65DEEsqId/t0QAK8V0kucd+YxPgwnZbTbQNjf KQyBumy1fB1I8CV6lQEXAZILaFhKTiAKQW6V4UVOxtcQ30+7BJVAyN1zBNZ6Qhra VG9XZZJP0M+n4SLRAGOhhfSuLvLNNg0dD9XDnft8W2kBzyG+pBo36n28wuCzhP8Z WB1ieh2mHQHB3whEKRfNDyFX8Fd3tq+p5Ieh+jqjQk8XEk6M0Ska/D7aqZ024wPE b2UxKIeejn5IV19RrJrturjQCzPPUAw48m/GCmOqO6wSZzHU0EA/WSglfad/dJUg 6EOjWDDsO4b1sprmPG5/bXd+8RXhuUTlgOFAgsJBjtqcqjVxzXmj+68CWUdKVmTl RThtVrDDxFDFvkwjxF1LgichoiJCQWBNZKtPCrmGnleoA0x0PY4qQiC5mFpWKSGY VaV3m6nTh6jizY9fPA3SAtEy/BMu7PAj1XEUAhTLB51a+yGRVVIzABEsNzbJukrz aZRCGZAFS4nh1V7FR4R+jM2dcH2Gi0J69m0lL/2aOj4jd+U4l6BoHT/RWVu0lho2 OtMPKF0FNnDtwWP6wQTxWHp6RcJqFkQ3CX0ch72/utrGWBYAvz2pXm/Q/O6hCN5a MveWpnRzh9auQ9HfHiLhvOVBHYR1t22YbNWGlsAezzqysQnwSeOwpL/Rj7HrNHj5 mquydzvEKLe3Zx3UXCYk =3g0T -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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