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Date:      Tue, 25 May 1999 03:09:41 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Nicole Harrington <nicole@nmhtech.com>
To:        Andrew <mynet@uq.net.au>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Sergey <serge69@nym.alias.net>
Subject:   kernel panic in 3.2  WAS Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ?
Message-ID:  <XFMail.990525030941.nicole@nmhtech.com>
In-Reply-To: <037201bea67f$697957d0$1e8e22cb@upstairs>

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On 25-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Andrew  wrote:
> A friend of mine who runs a web hosting and anonymous ftp
> server has been running 3.1 Release for about 2 months without
> even so much as a reboot . The box is on a 100mbit connection
> at a data center. He also has a shell service on the same box.
> The box recently set a record for the amount
> of data served from any client at the data center. The second closest
> client which has a whole room full of SGI and SUN machines was
> only using about half as much data.
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> The machine is a P2-450 with x3 16 GIG IBM ide drives
> and 512 meg ram.
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> He has just changed another box in a different country to FreeBSD
> 3.2 release from Solaris 2.7 ( x86 ) because of problems. It is now
> running 3.2 Release and everything seams great. Solaris 2.7 dosent
> like ide drives over 8 gig which isnt good considering IBM make 22 gig
> IDE drives now.
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> Andrew

 I too agree that 3.1 was Very stable and 3.2 for most things seems to be O=
K so
 far as I have used it for many things at the ISP I work for. However I hav=
e
come across a reproducable problem with 3.2. just as Sergey has spoken abou=
t,
that does not seem to occur in 3.1.

 I am testing the new FreeBSD port of the Inktomi caching server. The size =
of
the processes that are used can grow quite large and are multithreaded.=20
I have found that if I set MAXDSIZ and DFLDSIZ too small (like 512*1024*102=
4) I
can make the server page fault and reboot by making it work hard. (IE make =
the
process grow)

 SO far a setting of (2*1024*1024*1024) for both seems to be quite stable u=
nder
.any load, but it seems unsettling that rather than kill a process that is
demanding too much memory, the kernel page faults. Especially since the pro=
cess
runs as a user process not as a system process.

 I am no expert on these things, but I welcome the assistance of anyone wil=
ling
to help identify the root of this problem to make FreeBSD more stable. Flam=
es
and put downs about a lack of detail or knowlege like I have seen so far, p=
lease
send to the linux list of choice to save us both some time please. I use
FreeBSD as it is a professional OS with mostly professional people willing =
to
lend a hand.

 Thanks


 BTW Sergey, I realize that you may be frustrated, however sending messages=
 that
are the next best thing to flame bait is not welcome. If you want assistanc=
e,
ask for it. Offline more information can be shared and the outcome shared w=
ith
the list.


    Nicole


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sergey <serge69@nym.alias.net>
> To: <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 3:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ?
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>=20
>> Hi!
>>
>> I've checked this out on good hardware. And now can CLAIM that
>> 3.1-R *really* have kernel problems on FreeBSD's "classic" configuration=
.
>> This bug causes TERRIBLE instability - panic in 24 hours. Even Microsoft=
's
>> OSes gives significantly better results
>>
>>
>>
>> This is mourning day for me - I CAN'T believe in stability of RELEASES
>> any more...
>>
>>
>> With best regards, Sergey.
>>
>>
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