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Date:      Wed, 02 Nov 2005 11:06:40 -0800
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        Jimmy Scott <jimmy@inet-solutions.be>, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Non-executable stack
Message-ID:  <43690E40.5040705@elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <86pspjz0xu.fsf@xps.des.no>
References:  <200510270608.51571.db@traceroute.dk>	<200510291242.16461.db@traceroute.dk>	<20051029131519.GA22254@ada.devbox.be>	<200510291412.57656.db@traceroute.dk> <86pspjz0xu.fsf@xps.des.no>

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Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:

>db <db@traceroute.dk> writes:
>  
>
>>Memory on ia32 can be writable and readable.  When it is readable it
>>is also executable.  On other arch's like AMD64 and IA64, I believe
>>memory can be readable, writable and executable.
>>    
>>
>
>Not quite.  IA32 can make individual segments readable, writable and /
>or executable, but lacks the ability to do so on a per-page basis.
>Since we have trampoline code at the top of the stack, the entire
>stack segment must be executable.  Moving the trampoline off the stack
>would solve the problem on all platforms.
>  
>

There has been recent talk of a shared kernel/user memory page..
that could be used for trampoline code.

>W^X across the board is not an option - it would break HotSpot and
>other JIT-based software.
>
>DES
>  
>


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