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Date:      Sun, 20 Sep 2015 10:49:50 +0200
From:      Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>
To:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>, Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com>
Cc:        Bruce Simpson <bms@fastmail.net>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>, George Neville-Neil <gnn@neville-neil.com>, David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r287780 - in head: share/man/man9 sys/kern sys/sys
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On 09/20/15 06:26, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 06:38:46PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> [...]
>> Hans - personally, I think you should've emailed out a review request
>> on freebsd-arch@ and put out a request for testers and give a firm date
>> that you'll commit it. That makes it all very explicit.
>
> I agree with general idea of important differentials to be announced on a
> mail list.  There were probably more than one case when interested people
> did not know about a DR because they were not put on a revievers list and
> could only comment on the actual commit.
>

Hi,

I've put up a discussion about the FreeBSD's callout subsystem at the 
coming EuroBSDcon2015 devsummit (approved by Erwin) See:

https://wiki.freebsd.org/201510DevSummit


Bruce: The code in question is currently so-called dead, already stated 
several times (davide@) and I see no point to revert right away. Nobody 
is physically burning because of this change from what I can see. No 
crashes, no panics. And jch@ wants to test it. I will let some days pass 
so that the many questions arising in this thread can be properly 
answered and addressed, because some people are at sleep while others 
are online and also it is weekend, and some people might be aways from 
their computers.

Alexey+hiren+adrian: You are right about freebsd-arch@. I will put up 
more stuff at freebsd-arch@ . I thought Phabricator was enough for this 
change.

ian+george+glebius: Being an active kernel developer, growing out of the 
"USB box" as some have said, it is really frustrating to learn the new 
non-USB driving rules. I agree with Ian that core should clarify the 
requirement of pre-commit reviews when not stated in MAINTAINERS for 
regular FreeBSD kernel developers, to avoid discrimination among the 
kernel developers.

hiren: jch@, wrote in a comment in Phabricator he wanted to approve the 
change, so it is not fully true that no other kernel developers approved 
the change, for that matter.

--HPS





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