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Date:      Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:21:46 +1000 (EST)
From:      Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>
To:        mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith)
Cc:        jkh@time.cdrom.com, andrewr@slack.net, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 2.2.6 zp/tcp fuckups.
Message-ID:  <199809092222.PAA28776@hub.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <199809092215.PAA01614@dingo.cdrom.com> from "Mike Smith" at Sep 9, 98 03:15:26 pm

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In some mail from Mike Smith, sie said:
> 
> > So to hopefully improve the situation, I need to install PAO (pccard
> > driver & pccardd ?) and use the ep driver which results in the card
> > not being detected all the time after being suspended ?  Well, the
> > later I can live with as it already doesn't come back to life properly
> > after "apm -z" with a 100% reliability.
> > 
> > is that before or after I do the moon dance, painted in goat's blood
> > and smoking funny cigarettes whilst singing chants to some unholy god ? ;)
> 
> Is there any particular reason that you're ignoring the advice that 
> you've been given by myself (twice at least now) and others?
> 
> You don't need PAO.  Stock -current works fine.  I have one of these 
> cards; I use it regularly.

I don't want to use -current, ESPECIALLY after the letter about "you
don't have to receive version 3.0 if you don't want to and we don't
recommend it for you unless you're a maniac".  At this point in time,
using a stable release which sucks a bit is much more attractive than
using something which has been publicly stated as being hazardous.  I
don't have time to play around with it and debug it, I just want the
fucker to work and work reliably as a stable platform (no, I'm not
interested in how long people have had a -current system "up" for).

Darren

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