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Date:      Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:23:22 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        ru@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/an if_an.c src/sys/dev/arl if_arl_isa.c src/sys/dev/awi if_awi_pccard.c src/sys/dev/cm if_cm_isa.c src/sys/dev/cnw if_cnw.c src/sys/dev/cp if_cp.c src/sys/dev/cs if_cs.c src/sys/dev/ed if_ed.c src/sys/dev/em if_em.c ...
Message-ID:  <20050921.132322.116350250.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <20050921191906.GA24516@ip.net.ua>
References:  <200509211455.59154.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20050921.130241.102576086.imp@bsdimp.com> <20050921191906.GA24516@ip.net.ua>

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In message: <20050921191906.GA24516@ip.net.ua>
            Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 01:02:41PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: > In message: <200509211455.59154.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
: >             John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: > : > 5.  Fix all drivers to set some flag in foo_detach() and foo_shutdown()
: > : >     and refuse to work in foo_ioctl() if it's set.  This should fix
: > : >     panics when BPF listener is attached while interface goes away or
: > : >     module is unloaded.
: > 
: > : I'd rather 5) be simpler in 
: > : that it only check in the flags case to not force the driver lock to be 
: > : acquired for all the ioctls that the driver doesn't actually handle.  
: > : Actually, I think I'd really prefer that we think about how to fix the BPF 
: > : issue in BPF itself if possible.  It may be that we don't need to set the 
: > : flags (i.e. skip the actual ioctl) if the interface is in the process of 
: > : detaching and we can make that change centrally without having to scatter 
: > : gone flags in all the drivers.
: > 
: > This would solve the race at hand.  However, it wouldn't solve the
: > problems with driver shutdown racing with other things in the system
: > (like ifconfig during detach).
: > 
: > I've knocked around the idea of creating a if_dead() function that one
: > would call before foo_stop().  if_dead would just return (possibly an
: > error) for all the entry points before the device is actually
: > detached.  This would mean that we don't need to add flags to all the
: > drivers, but we do need to change all the detach routine.  This would
: > avoid the LOCK operations that you are worried about...
: > 
: I'm afraid you cannot safely change the ifnet method pointers, if
: you mean that foo_detach() should set ifp->if_start etc. to point
: to if_dead().

Why not?  What's the problem?

Warner



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