Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:08:24 +0100 From: Andrea Campi <andrea@webcom.it> To: Paul Richards <paul@originative.co.uk> Cc: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, kris@obsecurity.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_output.c Message-ID: <20010315000824.A552@webcom.it> In-Reply-To: <3AAEB5CC.640D6CAA@originative.co.uk>; from paul@originative.co.uk on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 12:05:32AM %2B0000 References: <3AAEA0B6.669CB86C@originative.co.uk> <20010313143849.A19262@mollari.cthul.hu> <3AAEA597.81830243@originative.co.uk> <20010313155059P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3AAEB5CC.640D6CAA@originative.co.uk>
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> but what about the sysadmin who has to support a real world environment
> where a product needs to be upgraded to fix a bug, a typical, real world
> application like say the web server, or database.
>
Drawing from my personal real-world experience running the italian operations
of a major european ISP on FreeBSD is, you shouln't rely on the ports system
to update your production machines. A production environment is usually too
critical to even install a relatively minor package from ports. You should
install from ports on one "staging" machine, test it, roll your package, and
that goes in the personalized package set for machines in that role, i.e. web
servers, mail servers, DNS servers, and so on. Ideally, you just copy the
package in a directory from where it gets pushed at convenient times, in a
staggered fashion, to all your production machines. Our setup was more
involved than average, as it included patching most packages, notably qmail,
to support proprietary extensions (authentication from our DB, mainly).
Of course, YMMV, this is *my personal experience*.
And, this is -cvs, so not the best forum for this.
Bye,
Andrea
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