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Date:      Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:25:33 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org>
To:        brett@peloton.runet.edu (Brett Taylor)
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 3.5-stable ?
Message-ID:  <199910121825.OAA45519@blackhelicopters.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910121348120.8786-100000@peloton.runet.edu> from Brett Taylor at "Oct 12, 1999  1:54:29 pm"

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> Huh?  There was no 2.5-RELEASE.  I am pretty sure there were no 1.5
> releases either.  There have been 2.*.5 releases, but the numbering scheme
> has been slightly altered w/ the advent of the 3.* branch.  

Okay, to address this issue that I received several mails on:

I should have said 2.2.5, or 2.*.5.  (Note to self: don't write so you
can be understood, write so you cannot be misunderstood.)

> As far as I know, there aren't any major stability issues w/ 3.2 or 3.3.
> I don't however use NFS and many other things so maybe I've missed those.
> I think you are probably safe to upgrade, maybe a machine at a time, to
> 3.3.

Well, in 2.2.5-release we had a nice little note in the release
announcement:

It is my great pleasure, as always, to announce the release of FreeBSD
2.2.5, our next release on the 2.2-stable branch. Those folks who are
still running 2.1.x and wish to upgrade to 2.2 technology are now
encouraged to do so as 2.2.5 has reached an equivalent level of
stability in all of our tests.

IIRC, we had a similar note at some point around 2.1.5.  (I dug up the
text of one, that's it for my documentation.)

jkh had also made some comments to that effect around 3.1, with all
the upgrade complaints.

> We could help you decide more if we knew exactly what issues you were
> having w/ software.

Ah, but if you told me exactly what to do, I wouldn't learn anything,
would I?  ;)

Seriously, most of it compiles.  But 'cd /usr/port/whatever && make
all install' isn't as easy and carefree as I had come to expect.
There's a definite sensation of Russian roulette every time.  ;)

I guess what I'm asking for is an official notice that 3.3 is
considered not just stable, but reliable, rather like the above.  I
need something to cover my butt with my clients when I upgrade them.

What version number this happens at is irrelevant, I suppose.  So long
as it's advertised, or at least labeled.

==ml


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