Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:41:39 +0100 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: Tomasz Rola <rtomek@ceti.pl> Cc: Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Out of order posting (was:: Load 0.20 on a freshly installed idle system) Message-ID: <20230123104139.d9975ad2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <Y83npFPuiqj2KeB9@tau1.ceti.pl> References: <CAGAKwcgFWukBrB_6SZVAoC4YKyPVhVMGED4aB6Z4E1fwZAO6mg@mail.gmail.com> <CAFbbPuhyJDewvE_a6MQpiGrpUew7EtxZKwt_=RHODNUyCYNduw@mail.gmail.com> <CAGAKwcghHH5t1_dtWPkOCwxPvDra%2BmgNFTQsG65i1_7pzTDkug@mail.gmail.com> <CAFbbPujMDQgo=zvSc5orcT=v3ftrVPXDjZE-D%2BUxt3%2BdOjFmUA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGAKwcid8j3C28wiypO87X9HT9Wq8cfTNHWnOQvcQgAcWrFuLw@mail.gmail.com> <CAGAKwcgZz8gujtd8gPBoC5nKxE00q1Pau6%2BiOUjxBR-UMMNpKw@mail.gmail.com> <1889CB4C-4B11-4178-8446-97DA9E5EC35A@nimnet.asn.au> <CAFbbPui=uPmKoKYo2t2KaXu=yWUT%2Ba4wksqnwvCjJpBsaALcpQ@mail.gmail.com> <20230122060127.GB8068@eureka.lemis.com> <CAFbbPui=zc5-ERz06gr1nLFy_SWuOZ67ubvoKiT2kPSubHy7bw@mail.gmail.com> <Y83npFPuiqj2KeB9@tau1.ceti.pl>
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 02:49:24 +0100, Tomasz Rola wrote: > I start to like top posting, seems like quite a fun. Please allow me to repeat what I already repeated several times: - I - A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Source: http://www.idallen.com/topposting.html - II - A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? Source: ? Everything should be clear now. ;-) However, I agree with the idea of efficient and _suiting_ ways of communication depending on context. On this mailing list, inline posting, "paragraphing" and trimming seems to be the most efficient way. To follow it is highly encouraged, because it shows respect toward those who spend their free time dealing with user questions. It's comparable to "doing your homework", for example, I read the relevant manpage myself before asking something on a mailing list, just to discover that all answers point me to the manpage where my question is answered. I also agree that many of today's "modern" MUAs (or "apps" that claim to be one) fail to easily allow the user to adapt to a posting style that is not the "native" one of the MUA (i. e., "cursor on top, I can only type at the top, I cannot move the cursor into the message quoted", or "moving the cursor into the message quoted destroys the quoting, garbage is the result" or worse). While many halfway decent programs allow you to change certain settings (like _not_ sending text + HTML nonsense), others do not. The whole thing becomes even more terrible if the user has no way of changing to a different MUA ("this is corporate policy!", "you use what we pre-installed, or else"). The amount of work to get an acceptable message styling and reply culture could maybe outweight the friendly advice to... well... you get the idea... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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