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Date:      Sun, 22 Jun 2025 15:02:12 +0000
From:      bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org
To:        sysinstall@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [Bug 287719] bsdinstall: system requirements: memory/RAM: UFS and ZFS
Message-ID:  <bug-287719-8135-BTjhW2njKS@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/>
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Alexander Ziaee <ziaee@FreeBSD.org> changed:

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                 CC|                            |ziaee@FreeBSD.org
         Resolution|---                         |Not Accepted
             Status|New                         |Closed

--- Comment #1 from Alexander Ziaee <ziaee@FreeBSD.org> ---
The 256MiB minimum was just reviewed with last week's CURRENT when that commit
went in. For additional info, as it says in the commit you linked, pkgbase is
what requires 256MiB. As it says in the Reddit thread you linked, we have users
running FreeBSD on <100MiB of RAM, and it can be tweaked much farther than
that.

Desktop is just one of many third party applications which requires additional
RAM over the minimum. Believe it or not, embedded is a massively more popular
use-case than desktop. We are also supporting use-cases which really require
TBs of RAM.

The ZFS requirements were due to a bug in our previous ZFS implementation,
which is why that recommendation was removed. I have a machine with two pools
and over 4TB of disks which has been running on 4GB RAM with zero problems for
a few years. Still, UFS is much simpler and thus recommended for resource
constrained applications.

As for the desktop recommendation, there are more than a few desktops in the
wild from people who strip adverts from the web who are happy with 1Gb ram, and
there are people who video conference while doing other things and organize
their browser tabs that are not happy with 16Gb ram.

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