Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 17:51:26 -0500 From: Jeremy Messenger <mezz.freebsd@gmail.com> To: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org> Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, Michal Varga <varga.michal@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Transforming GNOME Into A Linux-Only Project (link) Message-ID: <BANLkTimjNBFzFoCaaOn5sus0tsOiffVHbw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4DD4DB50.3040402@freebsd.org> References: <1305746792.1538.11.camel@xenon> <4DD4DB50.3040402@freebsd.org>
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On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org> wro= te: > On 5/18/11 3:26 PM, Michal Varga wrote: >> I'll just leave this here as I'm basically speechless, and it's probably >> not worth commenting anyway. >> >> But for those who might be interested and don't necessarily keep up with >> the latest 'news', clicky: >> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=3Dnews_item&px=3DOTQ1Nw > > GNOME has been heading down this path since 2.0 was released. =A0It's bee= n > a slow process, Yep.. For example, recently, in the gnome-screensaver 3.x. They removed src/gs-auth-helper.c with no reason. All we have to do is to readd it on our own and it works fine. > but the decisions that were made around hal, devkit, > etc. are unmistakable signs that GNOME is abandoning the OSS desktop in > favor of a Linux desktop. > > Is this a bad idea? =A0Yes and no. =A0These days, people expect a desktop= to > have a tight OS integration. =A0They like the ability to have mobility, > hardware awareness, sexy graphics, etc. as part of their desktop > experience. =A0So a desktop can't be completely OS-agnostic. =A0However, > what GNOME and fd.o could have been better about is to make truly open, > well-documented standards so that vendors like Solaris and *BSD could > plug in bits to provide OS integration. =A0Say what you will about hal, > but hal had this. =A0The udev stuff does not. > > To me, GNOME could add OS-level integration and provide clear > delineation as to what is PI and what is PD. =A0The PD stuff should have > open specifications. =A0That's the OSS model. =A0But if the GNOME guys wa= nt > to make GNOME into the Linux OS, that's their call. =A0GNOME 2.x is still > open. =A0Perhaps the fork efforts being discussed will take off. Or write our very own WM for BSD only. :-P Cheers, Mezz > Joe > > -- > Joe Marcus Clarke > FreeBSD GNOME Team =A0 =A0 =A0:: =A0 =A0 =A0gnome@FreeBSD.org > FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome > http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome --=20 mezz.freebsd@gmail.com - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org
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