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Date:      Tue, 2 Jan 2001 13:32:29 -0500
From:      Rory Arms <rory@urpower.com>
To:        freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: the abi
Message-ID:  <20010102133229.B32158@urpower.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.31.0101021044590.796-100000@GATECH>; from dwayne@austin.ibm.com on Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 10:47:25AM -0600
References:  <20010102012039.A31690@dragon.nuxi.com> <Pine.WNT.4.31.0101021044590.796-100000@GATECH>

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On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 10:47:25AM -0600, Dwayne Grant McConnell wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, David O'Brien wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 08:21:27PM -0500, David Edelsohn wrote:
> > The purpose of the PowerPC effort [at least mine] is not to complete with
> > Darwin and run on Mac's, but to provide a platform for PowerPC embedded
> > development.  Those that push JKH and others hard for a PowerPC port want
> > it for use in the embedded market.  The G4 would just be the reference
> > and development box -- but not the main use and target.
> >
> > I am not sure anyone will take the PowerPC port and polish it for desktop
> > or server use.
> 
> So the only FreeBSD PowerPC port in progress right now is for embedded?
> Or are there multiple efforts ongoing? If a desktop/server port is in
> progress or occurs in the future would it also use the same ABI or a
> different one?

Well, I'm a user who would be interested in seeing FreeBSD/ppc targeted for
desktop/server use. What ABI does NetBSD/ofppc use? How about OpenBSD/powerpc?
I imagine they both use the same one.

BTW, does anyone out there use or know someone who is using a PPC system based
on IBM's POP platform. I know that siliconfruit was supposedly making a system
based on the platform, but I see nothing new from them other than schematics.
It seems like POP has lost some of its momentum, which is surprising. It seems 
like it would be an appealing choice, at least to the thin server market.

-rory


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