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Date:      Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:15:31 +0200
From:      "Reko Turja" <reko.turja@liukuma.net>
To:        <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Sasa Stupar <sasa@stupar.homelinux.net>
Subject:   Re: KDE - how to?
Message-ID:  <019101c6072c$1ac39aa0$0a0aa8c0@endor.swagman.org>
References:  <DD1951B2B337D6EB56BFAF52@[192.168.10.249]><43A9A240.9070709@wcborstel.nl>	<BB5B82E9EEB424A7EED8017A@[192.168.10.249]><200512221719.53755.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <AECC2F6A2B4C5AD042BCF2C1@[192.168.10.249]>

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sasa Stupar" <sasa@stupar.homelinux.net>
To: "RW" <list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com>; 
<freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: KDE - how to?


>
>
> --On 22. december 2005 17:19 +0000 RW 
> <list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you in the wheel group?
>> _______________________________________________
>
> No, I am not in wheel group. I thought I could su if I am not in the 
> wheel group (well, at least I can do it on linux) but I am learning 
> FreeBSD slowly.

You _must_ be in the wheel group to be able to su in any case. Linux 
people see whole wheel group and root as a bad thing for anarchistic 
society, BSD folks like the additional layer of security - One has to 
crack wheel group users password or account in order to get root in a 
machine using su.

> BUt why it won't let me log in as root? As I have read if the 
> following line  has secure written then root logins are allowed:
> ttyv8   "/usr/X11R6/bin/kdm"  xterm   on secure
> or have I missaunderstood this?

Secure means that root can login from these terminals directly (insecure 
terminals enforce the login as regular user then su:ing).

-Reko 



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