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Date:      Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:49:22 -0300 (ADT)
From:      "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Cc:        das@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: vnodes - is there a leak?  where are they going?
Message-ID:  <20040831214524.P31538@ganymede.hub.org>
In-Reply-To: <20040831205907.O31538@ganymede.hub.org>
References:  <20040831205907.O31538@ganymede.hub.org>

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As a follow up, looking at vmstat -m .. specifically the work that David 
did on seperating the union vs regular vnodes:

   UNION mount    60     2K      3K204800K      162    0     0  32
        undcac     0     0K      1K204800K343638713    0     0  16
        unpath 13146   227K   1025K204800K 43541149    0     0  16,32,64,128
   Export Host     1     1K      1K204800K      164    0     0  256
        vnodes   141     7K      8K204800K      613    0     0  16,32,64,128,256

Why does 'vnodes' show only 141 InUse?  Or, in this case, should I be 
looking at:

      FFS node496600124150K 127870K204800K401059293    0     0  256

496k FFS nodes, if I'm reading right?

vs neptune, which is showing only:

      FFS node300433 75109K  80257K204800K  3875307    0     0  256



On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

>
> I have two servers, both running 4.10 of within a few days (Aug 5 for venus, 
> Aug 7 for neptune) ... both running jail environments ... one with ~60 
> running, the other with ~80 ... the one with 60 has been running for ~25 days 
> now, and is at the border of running out of vnodes:
>
> Aug 31 20:58:00 venus root: debug.numvnodes: 519920 - debug.freevnodes: 11058 
> - debug.vnlru_nowhere: 256463 - vlrup
> Aug 31 20:59:01 venus root: debug.numvnodes: 519920 - debug.freevnodes: 13155 
> - debug.vnlru_nowhere: 256482 - vlrup
> Aug 31 21:00:03 venus root: debug.numvnodes: 519920 - debug.freevnodes: 13092 
> - debug.vnlru_nowhere: 256482 - vlruwt
>
> while the other one has been up for ~1 days, but is using alot less, for more 
> processes:
>
> Aug 31 20:58:00 neptune root: debug.numvnodes: 344062 - debug.freevnodes: 
> 208655 - debug.vnlru_nowhere: 0 - vlruwt
> Aug 31 20:59:00 neptune root: debug.numvnodes: 344062 - debug.freevnodes: 
> 208602 - debug.vnlru_nowhere: 0 - vlruwt
> Aug 31 21:00:03 neptune root: debug.numvnodes: 344062 - debug.freevnodes: 
> 208319 - debug.vnlru_nowhere: 0 - vlruwt
>
> I've tried shutting down all of the VMs on venus, and umount'd all of the 
> unionfs mounts, as well as the one nfs mount we have ... the above #s are 
> after the VMs (and mounts are recreated ...
>
> Now, my understanding of the vnodes is that for every file opened, a vnode is 
> created ... in my case, since I'm using unionfs, there are two vnodes per 
> file ... if it possible that there are 'stale' vnodes that aren't being freed 
> up?  Is there some way of 'viewing' the vnode structure?
>
> For instance, fstat shows:
>
> venus# fstat | wc -l
>   19531
>
> So, obviously it isn't just open files that I'm dealing with here, for even 
> if I double that, that is nowhere near 519920 ...
>
> So, where else are the vnodes going?  Is there a 'leak'?  What can I look at 
> to try and narrow this down / provide more information?
>
> Even some way of determining a specific process that is sucking back alot of 
> them, to move that to a different machine ... ?
>
> Help?
>
> ----
> Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
> Email: scrappy@hub.org           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664
>

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Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: scrappy@hub.org           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664



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