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Date:      Wed, 3 May 2000 22:17:58 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Brennan W Stehling <brennan@offwhite.net>
To:        Lanny Baron <lnb@freebsdsystems.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: low cost consultant
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10005032201530.50059-100000@home.offwhite.net>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.000503230334.lnb@freebsdsystems.com>

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I provided lots of information.  I have posted that it is a Sound Blaster
card, SB16.  And then I posted the contents of the /dev/sndstat file once
it was configured along with the dmesg output and my kernel config
settings, along with error message from script output.  No matter what
information I provided something was still missing.

Sound with 3.4 seems to be a real puzzle.  I had no trouble getting NAT
working with the firewall, and you would think that would be more 
difficult than getting a simple sound card to work.  And I was able to do
all of that by simply reading a few web pages and sending less than 3
emails to a single person.

After reading several web pages and emails about getting a sound card to
work I have yet to get mine to work once again.  I know what I have but
that does not seem to help.  It is a PCI card, sb16 and PnP.  Nothing I
seem to do will get it to work.  And it may just be that sound is working
and my problem with X dieing is simply an X problem.

So after a day of re-compiling, re-configuring and rebooting I am ready to
simply hand it off to someone with more experience with this issue and
simply have them make it work.

The reason I have a home box is so I can learn, but what I have learned
about sound card configuration is that is simply not easy given that
the existing documentation is not helping me, even though I know my
hardware works, because it was before I did a new re-install of 3.4. I
have been told 4.0 has made great advances in making sound card
configuration much easier.

I simply wish I could call a company have have sound configured and
running an hour later.  After pay $40 for a cd set from cdrom.com I would
be more than happy to pay for an hour of consulting to get X, sound and a
firewall running on my box professionally.

I also wish I could install FreeBSD and have it autodetect and set up my
video and sound card.  Perhaps future versions of FreeBSD will be more
like the newest Linux distros in that regard.  I love how Caldera
autodetects my video and audio and configures them both for me.  Too bad I
do not like the rest of the Linux system, or I would be using it now.

FreeBSD is my choice and I am determined to get it working one way or
another.

Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com

fortune:
"I am not an Economist.  I am an honest man!"
		-- Paul McCracken

On Wed, 3 May 2000, Lanny Baron wrote:

> Hello Brennan,
> I have been in your shoes for a l o n g time. I have received lots of help from
> the wonderful FreeBSD community. However, in the course I have managed
> (unintentionally) to get quite a few angry with me. 
> 
> Why am I saying that? The answer is, that the people that give support and like
> to help out, need relevant information for a particular problem. You have to be
> more familiar with your hardware and that which FreeBSD supports. 
> 
> Just looking below you say "my sound card", well that does not say much. You
> built a new kernel. Did the kernel you built, have drivers for the sound card?
> Did you look at /sys/i386/conf/LINT for drivers. Did you look for similar
> problems on the search engine on www.freebsd.org ?
> 
> I am not trying to sound off here. I am trying to help you get the help you
> need.
> 
> -Lanny
> On 04-May-00 Brennan W Stehling wrote:
> > I have heard of commercial consultants popping up lately for FreeBSD, but
> > those are largely for business uses.  I am wondering if there is a way I
> > can simply get support for my home FreeBSD box when I need help getting
> > something to work and these email lists just cannot help.
> > 
> > Like right now, I would simply like to have my sound card to work properly
> > as I once had it, and not have to figure out which drive and controller I
> > need for my hardware.  I have spent over 8 hours on it already and I
> > cannot seem to get it to work properly.
> > 
> > I get the sound to configure and build a new kernel with the new devices,
> > but X dies immediately upon using certain apps.  It does not make sense.
> > 
> > I would just like to make a couple of phone calls to a service that I can
> > trust to use root access on my machine (via ssh) and figure out my
> > hardware and provide the correct kernel config file and even build it and
> > make the correct devices for me to get going.
> > 
> > And if they are able to get my box working as it is supposed to with the
> > supported hardware I would be happy to pay them for their time, as 8 hours
> > lost of my own is worth more than 20 minutes spent on the phone with a
> > good FreeBSD consultant.
> > 
> > I am guessing there has to be some kind of service out there, but I am not
> > aware of any.  Perhaps cdrom.com offers a service like this.  There is
> > limited support, but no "here is my box, make it work" support.
> > 
> > Does anyone have any idea?  Would anyone like to provide a commercial
> > service like this for home users?  The service could be limited to setting
> > up sound, video, firewalls and networking services... stuff that can be
> > part of a service contract, not an all encompassing service.
> > 
> > If so, I and many others like me, would be very interested.
> > 
> > Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
> > projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com
> > 
> > fortune:
> > "I am not an Economist.  I am an honest man!"
> >               -- Paul McCracken
> > 
> > 
> > 
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