Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:03:12 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr> To: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha clock.c Message-ID: <20020521140312.A88313@lpt.ens.fr> In-Reply-To: <p05111705b90fe1afee46@[10.0.1.4]>; from brad.knowles@skynet.be on Tue, May 21, 2002 at 01:47:43PM %2B0200 References: <20020517114010.A57127@regency.nsu.ru> <20020519100324.GK44562@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <20020519134348.I67779@blossom.cjclark.org> <p05111722b90de01cc974@[10.9.8.215]> <20020520195703.A79046@dragon.nuxi.com> <p05111701b90fb2744154@[10.9.8.215]> <20020521103710.C71209@lpt.ens.fr> <p05111703b90fc048bd8f@[10.0.1.4]> <20020521133026.L71209@lpt.ens.fr> <p05111705b90fe1afee46@[10.0.1.4]>
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Brad Knowles said on May 21, 2002 at 13:47:43: > > pronounce "Hubbard" quite nicely when speaking English, will say > > something like "oobaarh" when speaking French. > > That's because the pronunciation of the same word is different in > the two languages. I don't think that's the issue. An English person, speaking in English and pronouncing the French male name "Jean", will pronounce it roughly correct, and not like the English female name "Jean". The French apparently believe that, when they speak their language, they have the right to mutilate other people's names (but will not grant that right to others, ie they will complain if an English speaker doesn't pronounce "François" correctly). > French-speaking people are so damn snooty sometimes. > Occasionally you will run into one that doesn't speak English but > will still be friendly and as helpful as possible, but if you don't > speak French it seems that most often you will run into people who > take a "But you must speak French in order to exist!" type attitude. True, they exist. But even in a city like Paris, most of them quite genuinely have a very hard time with English -- both because their command is bad, and because they're very underconfident in using it. Sometimes they do make the effort anyway, but after I'd spent a few months here, I found that some people refused to talk to me in English because, they claimed, my French was better than their English. (And sometimes that was true.) The reverse side is that they're not snooty about your quality of French: no matter how atrocious it is, they try to understand you, and are overjoyed that you're making an effort at all. If they do in fact speak English they'll help out, otherwise they'll wait patiently while you try to make your meaning clear in broken French... English-speakers, on the other hand, are often quite condescending towards people who speak (or write) bad English. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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