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Date:      Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:59:44 -0500
From:      Christopher Michaels - SSG <ChrisMic@sbservices.com>
To:        "'Howard Lew'" <digital@www2.shoppersnet.com>
Cc:        "FreeBSD Mailing List (E-mail)" <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Hardware woes - AMD K6/2-300 (?)
Message-ID:  <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB441A5DE2@site2s1>

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For what it's worth there are 3 systems in my home 2 with K6-2/300's and one
K6-2/350 and none of them have exhibited any signs of problems at all.  I
have recompiled the kernel several times and I believe have done 2 make
worlds so far.  All 3 have the FIC motherboard (VA-503) so that may be
related, or maybe you just got a bad chip.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Howard Lew [SMTP:digital@www2.shoppersnet.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, January 21, 1999 1:16 AM
> To:	Ronald F. Guilmette
> Cc:	sporkl@ix.netcom.com; questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject:	Hardware woes - AMD K6/2-300 (?)
> 
> On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> 
> > 
> > In message <Pine.BSF.4.05.9901201539570.306-100000@PigStuy.nws.net>, you
> wrote:
> > 
> > >I have used 2.2.8 on an AMD k6/2-300 system.
> > >Signal 11 is segmentation fault, so it would appear that this would be
> a
> > >memory problem. Is your motherboard's memory configuration compatible
> with
> > >the memory you are using? 
> > 
> > Yes.  I have just learned however that there was a known problem with
> the
> > earlier (pre-C) steppings of the AMD-K6/2 which causes them to be
> unreliable
> > when used with more than 32MB of memory.  This has now been confirmed
> for
> > me by AMD.
> > 
> > My system has 64MB in it.
> > 
> > The processor that _I_ bought (as part of a complete system) apparently
> is
> > of the `A' stepping vintage - it has the bug.
> > 
> > Of course, the dealer I bought it from claims that hs has no AMD
> K6/2-300s
> > which are any later than stepping `A' and that his distributor also has
> none
> > of any later stepping... Translation?  I got screwed.
> > 
> > I have been burned by AMD again!
> 
> The place I work has 3 AMD K6-2 systems:
> AMD K6-2 300 with 128MB PC100 Memory
> AMD K6-2 333 with 128MB PC100 Memory
> AMD K6-2 350 with 64MB EDO 72 Pin Memory
> 
> All are A stepping and only the 350 has the new CXT core.  None of them
> have stability problems.  It sounds to me that either you have a bad cpu
> or your motherboard may have stability problems.
> 
> All 3 systems are using the TMC TI5VG+ 1024K Cache MB.  Depending on the
> memory you have, switching the SDRAM timing to 3 instead of 2 may be
> necessary to create a rock solid system.
> 
> But keep in mind that there are some AMD K6-2 300s that are rated for
> 66MHz and not the 100MHz bus.  The 66MHz bus ones were cheaper...
> 
> However, one of my friends had an AMD K6-2 350 that worked fine (i.e, rock
> solid) until he overclocked the bus to 133MHz for kicks just to check out
> the performance.  The system was not stable at 133MHz bus so when he moved
> it back to the 100MHz bus, the cpu would no longer compile the kernel
> without dumping core in the process.  I guess the CPU was somehow
> damaged when overclocked.

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