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Date:      Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:42:45 -0800
From:      Renaud Waldura <rwaldura@LIGOS.COM>
To:        "'Nate Williams'" <nate@mt.sri.com>, Shannon Wheeler <swheeler@tnc.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD isp <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: ICMP firewall entry?
Message-ID:  <9141909996F1D011B8FF00A0C95A661B24B791@server.ligos.com>

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Have you thought of Path MTU discovery being broken because if ICMP
filtering?

Check this out:
	http://www.worldgate.com/~marcs/mtu/

--Renaud


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Nate Williams [SMTP:nate@mt.sri.com]
> Sent:	Friday, November 20, 1998 12:58 PM
> To:	Shannon Wheeler
> Cc:	FreeBSD isp
> Subject:	Re: ICMP firewall entry?
> 
> > Something wrong with your subnet mask or you're using non-private IP
> > addresses internally. What internal IP addresses are you using and what
> > subnet masks?
> 
> I'm not using any private IP addresses, and if my masks were wrong
> nothing would get through.  Almost everything gets through, but only
> certain WWW sites don't work.
> 
> If it were a simple configuratino issue I wouldn't have posted to the
> list.  It may be an issue with my firewall and ICMP source routing, or
> it may be something else completely different.
> 
> 
> 
> Nate
> 
> > Shannon Wheeler
> > Data & Comm. Tech
> > Clearwater Welding & Fabricating Ltd
> > Fort McMurray, AB
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
> > 
> > 
> > >David Greenman's recent comment about 'too-string a firewall for ICMP'
> > >in one of the lists got me thinking about some machines on my network.
> > >
> > >Currently, I have a 'home-network' of machines in each employees
> > >home, which has it's own dedicated subnet (4 machines, whee!).
> However,
> > >the machines connected to this subnet can not connect to every WWW
> > >server on the net, while the 'gateway' machines for each home have no
> > >such problems.
> > >
> > >Example:
> > >
> > >Internet <-> Firewall <-> Modem Server <-> Office machines
> > >                           ^    ^   ^
> > >                           |    |   |
> > >                           v    v   v
> > >                          Home networks routers <-> Home machine 1
> > >
> > >
> > >(home networks routers are multiple machines, each connecting to the
> > >modem server from a different house).
> > >
> > >All routing computers in this case are running FreeBSD, as well as the
> > >firewall and modem server.  Note, all the office machines work fine,
> all
> > >of the home network routers work fine, but all of the home machines
> work
> > >'most of the time'.  For example, I can't connect to
> www.intellicast.com
> > >from my box that I'm typing on now, but if I startup netscape on the
> > >router box next to it things work fine.
> > >
> > >Could this be related to ICMP?  The 'router' boxes have two addresses,
> > >one is the 'office address' so it appears to be on the office network,
> > >but it also has a second address that is one the 'home subnet'.  The
> > >only thing I can think is that somehow routing isn't working, but for
> > >about 80% of the sites on the WWW, everything works peachy?
> > 
> > 
> > 
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