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Date:      Fri, 14 Feb 2025 17:08:54 -0800
From:      paul beard <paulbeard@gmail.com>
To:        "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@sdf.org>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: apple prevented freebsd on apple hardware?
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https://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleSilicon is alive.

more at https://duckduckgo.com/?q=freebsd+apple+silicon&t=osx&ia=web

On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 4:54 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@freebsd.org>
wrote:

> On Friday, 14 February 2025 at  8:32:44 +0000, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > is it true that apple issued a veiled threat to freebsd to prevent
> > a port to apple hardware?
>
> To the best of my knowledge, no.  FreeBSD does not run on Apple
> hardware, because that's not our emphasis, but NetBSD does.
>
> I do recall some contact from Apple decades ago.  My memory is hazy,
> but I think they were asking us not to include a port that replicated
> Apple's GUI look and feel.  It seems that they were more generally
> successful there, since I'm not aware of any such port any more.
>
> Greg
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<div dir="ltr"><a href="https://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleSilicon">https://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleSilicon</a>; is alive. <br><div><br></div><div>more at <a href="https://duckduckgo.com/?q=freebsd+apple+silicon&amp;t=osx&amp;ia=web">https://duckduckgo.com/?q=freebsd+apple+silicon&amp;t=osx&amp;ia=web</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 4:54 PM Greg &#39;groggy&#39; Lehey &lt;<a href="mailto:grog@freebsd.org">grog@freebsd.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Friday, 14 February 2025 at  8:32:44 +0000, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:<br>
&gt; is it true that apple issued a veiled threat to freebsd to prevent<br>
&gt; a port to apple hardware?<br>
<br>
To the best of my knowledge, no.  FreeBSD does not run on Apple<br>
hardware, because that&#39;s not our emphasis, but NetBSD does.<br>
<br>
I do recall some contact from Apple decades ago.  My memory is hazy,<br>
but I think they were asking us not to include a port that replicated<br>
Apple&#39;s GUI look and feel.  It seems that they were more generally<br>
successful there, since I&#39;m not aware of any such port any more.<br>
<br>
Greg<br>
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