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Date:      Mon, 17 Apr 2000 05:39:44 -0500
From:      Mike Pritchard <mpp@mppsystems.com>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: since this csh issue seems to be such a hot potato...
Message-ID:  <20000417053944.A83827@mppsystems.com>
In-Reply-To: <70728.955927950@zippy.cdrom.com>; from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com on Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 04:32:30PM -0700
References:  <70728.955927950@zippy.cdrom.com>

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On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 04:32:30PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> What I propose is that we simply decide to finish the process and move
> on:
> 
> 1. Fix the tcsh build so that it creates a symlink to /bin/csh

How about a knob to turn that off?  If I really want to use csh from
ports, I don't want every "make world" creating a symlink so that
I can't type "csh" and get the old shell (see the next statement).

I also don't like the fact that the 44bsd-csh port installs itself
as "44bsd-csh", and not /usr/local/bin/csh (or at least a symlink
with /usr/local/bin/csh -> /usr/local/bin/44bsd-csh).  If it comes
down to it and I want *csh*, I want to be able to type "csh"
and get the old shell.
  
> 2. Remove the csh sources from -current.  They are now redundant.
> 
> Then root's shell is tcsh and at least a non-zero number of people are
> happy.

As someone who squawked when this first came up, I can live with 
the change, but I would like my two points above addressed somehow.  

Hmm.  To get off-topic somewhat, maybe we should support some
kind of /usr/src/local/Makefile.post-buildworld makefile/script that would
be executed after a "buildworld" to "clean" things up a little
bit to suit that particular site.  E.g. blast away symlinks that
aren't wanted, or remove utilities that are not needed/wanted, or change
permissions (A number of people remove suid bits on a number
of programs in the default installation).

I also did make tcsh my default shell (like I said I would) just to see 
if I saw any differences, but about all I've had time to do the past 
few weeks is login and read my e-mail :-(, so I can't complain too much
about all of this.

-Mike
-- 
Mike Pritchard
mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mppsystems.com




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