Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:05:32 +0200 From: Jeremy Lea <reg@shale.csir.co.za> To: Glenn Johnson <gjohnson@nola.srrc.usda.gov> Cc: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>, Brian Handy <handy@lambic.physics.montana.edu>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>, obrien@NUXI.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATTENTION PLEASE: g77 in base system. Message-ID: <19990410180531.E6250@shale.csir.co.za> In-Reply-To: <19990409112852.A14614@symbion.srrc.usda.gov>; from Glenn Johnson on Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 11:28:52AM -0500 References: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9904082056190.19556-100000@lambic.physics.montana.edu> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9904091036480.55462-100000@thelab.hub.org> <19990409155258.A3791@shale.csir.co.za> <19990409112852.A14614@symbion.srrc.usda.gov>
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Hi,
On Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 11:28:52AM -0500, Glenn Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 03:52:58PM +0200, Jeremy Lea wrote:
> > I always thought the criteria for inclusion of things into the base
> > system was:
> >
> > 1. Needed for 'make world';
> > 2. Needed to get a basic functioning server up and running;
> > 3. Something usefull only within FreeBSD (like the kernel ;), or
> > 4. Can't be effectively built outside of /usr/src.
> >
> > If {g77|f77} can be built as a port, using the system EGCS, then to
> > port's it goes. Otherwise why don't we include the Top 20 ports, or
> > maybe the Top 25, or...
>
> First off, g77 is not your typical port. The build of g77 depends on
> having the source to gcc on your system. The last time I checked,
> installing the source was optional. The reason the current port of g77
> is marked broken is because of this.
See (4) above. Adding it to /usr/src, with a NO_FORTRAN option, would
get my vote.
> Future: Now it may be true that newer versions of g77 may not build
> against whatever version of egcs we have but at least we would be
> guaranteed of having a functional Fortran compiler.
lang/g77-devel? Depends on lang/egcs-devel?
> Many people don't seem to understand that FreeBSD can be used for
> workstations as well as servers and Fortran is *essential* on a
> scientific/engineering workstation. I don't doubt that there are more
> people using FreeBSD as a server but that doesn't mean that workstation
> users should be denied an essential tool because it takes up a few
> hundred kilobytes.
I'm a civil engineer, specialising in data analysis...
Regards,
-Jeremy
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