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Date:      Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:50:03 -0700 (PDT)
From:      La Place <a_trans2001@yahoo.com>
To:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: IPFilter and security
Message-ID:  <20010621065003.21247.qmail@web14810.mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010620215300.C740@blossom.cjclark.org>

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You can use ipf to do egress filtering, kinda a good thing for your network ;).  only allow
src/dst IPs that you want, reducing spoofed traffic and wasted bandwidth.  it is always good to do
egress filtering ;)..even @ ur host.

bruce\
--- "Crist J. Clark" <cristjc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 06:18:33PM -0700, Malcolm wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >   What do we think about installing IPFilter on non-gateway boxes
> > and using it to block all incoming traffic except for whatever ports
> > we want to use on our server (e.g., http, ftp)?
> 
> Well, "we" (OK, just me) think that it depends entirely on the purpose
> of the box and your local security policies. There is no "right"
> answer. But some two things to consider:
> 
> If you have locked down services on a box and then firewall but allow
> access to these services, what are you protecting? What does the
> firewall actually do to hamper a remote attacker? It really does not
> add anything. However, closing up all services is not as easy as it
> sounds and a firewall is an extra layer of protection against mistakes
> in locking them down. IMHO, unless the box is security critical, the
> administrative costs of all of the firewalling probably exceeds the
> security gain for resisting external attack.
> 
> However, a firewall in this situation might protect you more from
> _local_ users. That is, local users cannot start listening daemons on
> high ports on their own. Again, depending on the site policy, this may
> be good or bad. If policy is that users are trusted and _should_ be
> able to do things like that, firewalling is bad. OTOH, if users are
> less trusted and policy forbids these things, firewalling is the best
> way to stop it.
> 
> $0.02 for ya'.
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> 
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