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Date:      Fri, 01 Apr 2016 21:23:08 +0000
From:      Brian Fundakowski Feldman <brianfundakowskifeldman@gmail.com>
To:        Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Luiz Otavio O Souza <loos@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" <embedded@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: spigen(4) SPI Generic IO interface -- need comments
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Great! I think the last part I wanted to have was a manpage that covered
configuring the device tree (dump, edit, rebuild) because that was fairly
non-obvious to me. I have only tested it on the RPi2 myself.

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016, 5:12 PM Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com> wrote:

> hihi!
>
> ok, I'd now like to resurrect this - I'll take a look and see what's
> missing before we throw it into the tree. I'd like to use this for the
> atheros MIPS SPI stuff so i can more efficiently speak to an LCD. :P
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> -adrian
>
>
> On 22 August 2015 at 17:27, Brian Fundakowski Feldman
> <brianfundakowskifeldman@gmail.com> wrote:
> > You know, now you're making me wonder if the edge behavior shouldn't
> also be
> > configurable per-spigen/per-transfer. Chip select polarity seems far too
> > dangerous to expose that way. The only SPI device I have lying around so
> far
> > is an MCP3008.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 8:17 PM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've worked on one set of flash that had simple commands for identifying
> >> it, which were clocked at one rate (slow, to be compatible with older
> >> members of the family), and other commands that were data transfer that
> were
> >> clocked faster to match the data coming from internal pipelines in the
> part.
> >> I don't know how common this arrangement is in the wild, though.
> >>
> >> And all of this is from memory of something I worked on maybe 10 years
> ago
> >> now, so I'm not sure how relevant it is today. I do know NAND flash
> chips
> >> have similar behavior, but those don't have a SPI bus.
> >>
> >> Warner
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Brian Fundakowski Feldman
> >> <brianfundakowskifeldman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That's something I want feedback on: are there scenarios where you want
> >>> to
> >>> regularly vary the clock to a specific SPI device, as opposed to
> varying
> >>> it
> >>> among several? It would be easy to add to the transfer ioctls if you
> have
> >>> a
> >>> use case (for example, manual chip select control with more devices
> than
> >>> chip select pins in your low-level SPI implementation.)  Certainly
> from a
> >>> runtime cost perspective it would be no burden.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for taking a look!
> >>> --
> >>> green
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 5:55 PM Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi!
> >>> >
> >>> > This looks cool! Is there any reason why the clock isn't per
> >>> > transaction?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > -a
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 22 August 2015 at 11:23, Brian Fundakowski Feldman
> >>> > <brianfundakowskifeldman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > > I've added a couple more features:
> >>> > >  * clock adjustment via ioctl, independent per spigenN device
> >>> > >  * mmap(2) support for very low latency
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Brian Fundakowski Feldman <
> >>> > > brianfundakowskifeldman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:04 PM Tom Jones <jones@sdf.org> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:00:26AM -0400, Brian Fundakowski
> Feldman
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > >>> > I'm woefully out-of-practice with my kernel hackery (but still
> >>> > >>> > pretty
> >>> > >>> > proficient in jiggery-pokery) so I would like to get comments
> on
> >>> > >>> > a
> >>> > >>> little
> >>> > >>> > driver I just made for interfacing arbitrarily in userland with
> >>> > >>> > SPI
> >>> > >>> > components.  The only thing I'm exposing is a /dev/spigenN node
> >>> > >>> > with
> >>> > a
> >>> > >>> > single transfer ioctl and I put together a test circuit and
> >>> > >>> > program
> >>> > >>> with an
> >>> > >>> > MCP3008 10-bit ADC IC to validate that it basically works,
> other
> >>> > >>> > than
> >>> > >>> the
> >>> > >>> > limitation that the transfers must be octet-multiply-sized,
> but I
> >>> > >>> haven't
> >>> > >>> > looked at the SoC's (I'm using a Raspberry Pi 2) data sheet to
> >>> > >>> > tell
> >>> > >>> whether
> >>> > >>> > that's just a limit on the spibus(4) interface or the Broadcom
> >>> > >>> > SPI
> >>> > >>> driver
> >>> > >>> > or the Broadcom SoC itself.
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > I hit one snag in development where I simply called the ioctl
> >>> > >>> > wrong
> >>> > and
> >>> > >>> > found copyin(9) to page fault HARD if given a bogus user
> address
> >>> > >>> > to
> >>> > copy
> >>> > >>> > from, and panic the kernel.  I can post up the test program if
> >>> > >>> > anyone
> >>> > >>> wants
> >>> > >>> > but it's very trivial: I just align the start bit and the
> command
> >>> > data
> >>> > >>> into
> >>> > >>> > the least significant bits of the first octet, shift it up two
> >>> > >>> positions so
> >>> > >>> > the NULs get clocked out as part of the command field, and
> >>> > >>> > provide
> >>> > two
> >>> > >>> > octets for the data field to retrieve back the 10-bit digital
> >>> > >>> > value.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Oh, cool.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> I did the same earlier this year, have you seen[1]?.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> The FreeBSD i2c api is the same/very similar the linux one[2][3].
> >>> > >>> Have
> >>> > you
> >>> > >>> considered adding some of the ioctls[3] or the data structures to
> >>> > >>> make
> >>> > it
> >>> > >>> easier to port code?
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> [1]:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-embedded/2015-April/002466.html
> >>> > >>> [2]: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/i2c/dev-interface
> >>> > >>> [3]:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=iic&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+10.2-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html
> >>> > >>> [4]: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/spi/spidev
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> I've iterated a bit on this to try to make some more sensible API,
> >>> > >> behaving reasonably about being able to set the SPI clock speed.
> >>> > >> I'm
> >>> > going
> >>> > >> to implement an mmap handler so I can have my low-latency
> operation
> >>> > mode,
> >>> > >> as well.  I don't like the Linux APIs one bit because it's just
> not
> >>> > safe to
> >>> > >> allow all those configuration changes on a per-transfer basis...
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Moving this to -embedded because it's more apt than -hackers.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >
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