Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:05:20 -0600 From: "Munden, Randall J" <Randall.Munden@umb.com> To: "Brett Glass" <brett@lariat.org>, <chris@randomcamel.net>, <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Where is FreeBSD going? Message-ID: <79B4EAB03B5E4649A740A8C1452F606435AF1B@y6001a.umb.corp.umb.com>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Brett Glass [mailto:brett@lariat.org]=20 > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:16 PM > To: Munden, Randall J; chris@randomcamel.net;=20 > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Where is FreeBSD going? >=20 >=20 > At 04:00 PM 1/5/2004, Munden, Randall J wrote: >=20 > >I think this is what is on my mind these days. I'm=20 > preparing to load=20 > >up some machines for production soon (I've already put it=20 > off for too=20 > >long waiting for 5-STABLE) and I don't like what I'm seeing -- with=20 > >both the mud slinging here and the performance in the lab (mostly=20 > >anecdotal). >=20 > I don't think that *this* conversation is mud slinging.=20 > What's happening on Slashdot, on the other hand, is. Right, I typed that wrong. This conversation certainly isn't mud slinging -- open, honest discussion can do nothing but good [no=20 matter the outcome]. Honestly, I picked up the troll thread because I'm curious as to=20 why someone would commit so much time in effort to trolling=20 these lists. In my experience it's a good idea to explore the=20 reasoning behind that type of dedication (faulty or not) for no other reason that discovery. On-the-other-hand some people=20 accuse me of being obsessive about information. /me shrugs All I can do now is apologize for 'feeding the troll' or rather,=20 sorry for calling attention to a subject that may be painful,=20 clich=E9 or overused to others. >=20 > >>=20 > >> FreeBSD also keeps falling farther and farther behind Linux > >> in the area of advocacy (and, hence, corporate adoption).=20 > >> Again, this is a governance=20 > >> issue. Many of the developers actually have an antipathy=20 > >> toward advocacy,=20 > >> since they dislike answering newbie FAQs and don't want too=20 > >> many people to adopt the OS for fear that it'll overcrowd=20 > >> their "sandbox." So, some of the criticism is actually valid. > > > >I noticed it too but I just chalked it up to being crazy=20 > busy and not=20 > >paying much attention. >=20 > Nope, it's not because you're too busy. It's true. FreeBSD is=20 > getting fewer mentions in the mainstream press, and fewer=20 > commercial apps, lately. Linux is mentioned as if it was the=20 > ONLY alternative to Windows. Work is needed to raise=20 > FreeBSD's profile. Which leads me to query, given limited time an resources, what can=20 I do? I've moved many a production server to fBSD over the=20 last 10 or so years -- some of them literally -- by blathering=20 nonstop about the virtues of the OS. So what else is there? Do I=20 need to start writing documentation or publishing and pimping more=20 Howtos on the intarweb? Should I brush up on my C and start patching? Frankly, I'd never given thought to providing more effort. The OS=20 has always done it's own advocacy in my experience. >=20 > --Brett >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/free>; bsd-hackers > To=20 > unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20
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