Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 21:20:26 -0400 From: Mauricio <humo3302@gmail.com> To: "Jin Guojun[VFF]" <jguojun@gmail.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP Laptop freezes while using Xorg sporadically. Message-ID: <CAMsoGZ2AybgWsF1KPpnrxFd0pZC6qnzCBtjhedocaUe0w84BtA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <625dd3a5-0b20-4b23-8142-032510c956ce@gmail.com> References: <CAMsoGZ1Y0KwS8Q%2BrRTyGJbTvDPm=zd-tN=uKmrPRYMb3Oo%2B2YA@mail.gmail.com> <9baa7bab-3672-4eb1-9b02-86101e3ee87f@gmx.at> <d0f7bd1a-47b8-4d2e-a509-c2676811844e@gmail.com> <CAMsoGZ2xphB%2B=77amOn5=M8CPeEZ2cAd_WLSBYWqKRww9oBKzQ@mail.gmail.com> <625dd3a5-0b20-4b23-8142-032510c956ce@gmail.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] > I had similar issue on an old HP laptop, but not sure if it is the same > cause as yours. > > Please try to set Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf > (uncomment the line in Section Serverlayout) > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > #Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" >EndSection Ok so i have tried this and it only led me to getting a xorg error, and i got no graphical output. Here i leave the xorg log: https://pastebin.com/7pAKUJXz On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 1:13 PM Jin Guojun[VFF] <jguojun@gmail.com> wrote: > It can be in there or many following places. Please refer to the man > xorg.conf. > > /etc/X11/<cmdline> > /usr/local/etc/X11/<cmdline> > /etc/X11/$XORGCONFIG > /usr/local/etc/X11/$XORGCONFIG > /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /etc/xorg.conf > /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.<hostname> > /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf > /usr/local/lib/X11/xorg.conf.<hostname> > /usr/local/lib/X11/xorg.conf > > AllowEmptyInput was an old problem, but just in case it reoccurs. > In this case, Ctrl+Alt+DEL should be able to reboot the laptop. You may > try to confirm if it is the case. > > I also see the similar issue on some laptops, the mainly is related to the > display driver -- xf86-video-xxx-#.#.#_# > Since your laptop is not using a xorg.conf file, it uses the default > driver, which usually works. > You may try to load video card specific driver, like > xf86-video-ati-19.1.0_7,1 if the laptop has an ATI video card. > > On 7/14/25 09:22, Mauricio wrote: > > >I had similar issue on an old HP laptop, but not sure if it is the same > >cause as yours. > > > >Please try to set Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf > >(uncomment the line in Section Serverlayout) > > >Section "ServerLayout" > > Identifier "X.org Configured" > > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > > #Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" > >EndSection > > I just did as you say. I will keep y'all informed about the results. > Let it be noted that this file was not in that directory before. > Also, should not this file be in /usr/local/etc/X11/ ? > I'm asking that as a newbie. As far as i know, that's the place where > we usually modify these kinds of files... > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 12:05 PM Jin Guojun[VFF] <jguojun@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 7/14/25 04:57, infoomatic wrote: >> > Sorry I cannot help with your problem, however, I just want to comment >> > on the hardware: we ordered a few HP 255-G5 @dayjob back then, and >> > after a while we gave up on them because they were constantly having >> > Microsoft Windows Bluescreens. I then decided to throw FreeBSD on them >> > without GUI and use it for our build farm - have worked flawlessly in >> > that configuration now for years. It may be that there is something >> > odd with the 255 series from HP. >> > >> > On 14.07.25 03:43, Mauricio wrote: >> >> I have an HP 255-G7 Laptop running FreeBSD 14.3 RELEASE which every >> >> now and then freezes entirely while using Xorg. When the laptop >> >> freezes, the only thing that gives me a response is mouse and graphic >> >> tablet movement. >> >> >> >> At that point, I can't jump to a virtual console with >> >> CTRL+ALT+FUNCTIONKEY. >> >> I can't even shut the computer down by pressing the shutdown button >> >> for less than a second as I usually do. >> >> But trying to do both things makes the disk activity light indicator >> >> start blinking a lot for a moment. >> >> >> >> The laptop doesn't seem to get back to work even after half an hour >> >> of waiting or more. >> >> Something that i have been noticing is that the freeze seems to be >> >> triggered by an increase of resources use. I noticed that because the >> >> freezing starts usually after opening a program like a terminal >> >> emulator while there are already some programs running in other >> >> windows. It also happened one time while trying to use my laptop >> >> while copying 23GBs of data in a virtual console. >> >> >> >> I leave some routine files here for you to check up if you feel the >> >> need of it: >> >> >> >> dmesg output: https://pastebin.com/C27M5K0F >> >> <https://pastebin.com/C27M5K0F>; >> >> rc.conf: https://pastebin.com/9wX0sKsa <https://pastebin.com/9wX0sKsa>; >> >> loader.conf: https://pastebin.com/wBrdL8NL >> >> <https://pastebin.com/wBrdL8NL>; >> >> >> >> As always, thanks to whoever that takes the time to help me with this >> >> I had similar issue on an old HP laptop, but not sure if it is the same >> cause as yours. >> >> Please try to set Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf >> (uncomment the line in Section Serverlayout) >> >> Section "ServerLayout" >> Identifier "X.org Configured" >> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >> #Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" >> EndSection >> >> >> > [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">> I had similar issue on an old HP laptop, but not sure if it is the same <br>> cause as yours.<br>><br>> Please try to set Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf </div><div dir="ltr">> (uncomment the line in Section Serverlayout)<br> <br>> Section "ServerLayout"<br>> Identifier "X.org Configured"<br>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0<br>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"<br>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"<br>> #Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"<br>>EndSection<div class="gmail-adL"><br></div><div class="gmail-adL">Ok so i have tried this and it only led me to getting a xorg error, and i got no graphical output.</div><div class="gmail-adL">Here i leave the xorg log: <a href="https://pastebin.com/7pAKUJXz">https://pastebin.com/7pAKUJXz</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 1:13 PM Jin Guojun[VFF] <<a href="mailto:jguojun@gmail.com" target="_blank">jguojun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u> <div> <div>It can be in there or many following places. Please refer to the man xorg.conf.</div> <div><br> </div> <div> /etc/X11/<cmdline><br> /usr/local/etc/X11/<cmdline><br> /etc/X11/$XORGCONFIG<br> /usr/local/etc/X11/$XORGCONFIG<br> /etc/X11/xorg.conf<br> /etc/xorg.conf<br> /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.<hostname><br> /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf<br> /usr/local/lib/X11/xorg.conf.<hostname><br> /usr/local/lib/X11/xorg.conf</div> <div><br> </div> <div>AllowEmptyInput was an old problem, but just in case it reoccurs.</div> <div>In this case, Ctrl+Alt+DEL should be able to reboot the laptop. You may try to confirm if it is the case.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>I also see the similar issue on some laptops, the mainly is related to the display driver -- xf86-video-xxx-#.#.#_#</div> <div>Since your laptop is not using a xorg.conf file, it uses the default driver, which usually works. </div> <div>You may try to load video card specific driver, like xf86-video-ati-19.1.0_7,1 if the laptop has an ATI video card.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>On 7/14/25 09:22, Mauricio wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr">>I had similar issue on an old HP laptop, but not sure if it is the same <br> >cause as yours.<br> ><br> >Please try to set Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf <br> >(uncomment the line in Section Serverlayout)<br> <br> >Section "ServerLayout"<br> > Identifier "X.org Configured"<br> > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0<br> > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"<br> > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"<br> > #Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"<br> <div>>EndSection</div> <div><br> </div> <div>I just did as you say. I will keep y'all informed about the results.</div> <div>Let it be noted that this file was not in that directory before.</div> <div>Also, should not this file be in /usr/local/etc/X11/ ?</div> <div>I'm asking that as a newbie. As far as i know, that's the place where </div> <div>we usually modify these kinds of files...</div> </div> <br> <div class="gmail_quote"> <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 12:05 PM Jin Guojun[VFF] <<a href="mailto:jguojun@gmail.com" target="_blank">jguojun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 7/14/25 04:57, infoomatic wrote:<br> > Sorry I cannot help with your problem, however, I just want to comment <br> > on the hardware: we ordered a few HP 255-G5 @dayjob back then, and <br> > after a while we gave up on them because they were constantly having <br> > Microsoft Windows Bluescreens. I then decided to throw FreeBSD on them <br> > without GUI and use it for our build farm - have worked flawlessly in <br> > that configuration now for years. It may be that there is something <br> > odd with the 255 series from HP.<br> ><br> > On 14.07.25 03:43, Mauricio wrote:<br> >> I have an HP 255-G7 Laptop running FreeBSD 14.3 RELEASE which every <br> >> now and then freezes entirely while using Xorg. When the laptop <br> >> freezes, the only thing that gives me a response is mouse and graphic <br> >> tablet movement.<br> >><br> >> At that point, I can't jump to a virtual console with <br> >> CTRL+ALT+FUNCTIONKEY.<br> >> I can't even shut the computer down by pressing the shutdown button <br> >> for less than a second as I usually do.<br> >> But trying to do both things makes the disk activity light indicator <br> >> start blinking a lot for a moment.<br> >><br> >> The laptop doesn't seem to get back to work even after half an hour <br> >> of waiting or more.<br> >> Something that i have been noticing is that the freeze seems to be <br> >> triggered by an increase of resources use. I noticed that because the <br> >> freezing starts usually after opening a program like a terminal <br> >> emulator while there are already some programs running in other <br> >> windows. It also happened one time while trying to use my laptop <br> >> while copying 23GBs of data in a virtual console.<br> >><br> >> I leave some routine files here for you to check up if you feel the <br> >> need of it:<br> >><br> >> dmesg output: <a href="https://pastebin.com/C27M5K0F" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/C27M5K0F</a>; <br> >> <<a href="https://pastebin.com/C27M5K0F" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/C27M5K0F</a>><br>; >> rc.conf: <a href="https://pastebin.com/9wX0sKsa" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/9wX0sKsa</a>; <<a href="https://pastebin.com/9wX0sKsa" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/9wX0sKsa</a>><br>; >> loader.conf: <a href="https://pastebin.com/wBrdL8NL" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/wBrdL8NL</a>; <br> >> <<a href="https://pastebin.com/wBrdL8NL" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/wBrdL8NL</a>><br>; >><br> >> As always, thanks to whoever that takes the time to help me with this<br> <br> I had similar issue on an old HP laptop, but not sure if it is the same <br> cause as yours.<br> <br> Please try to set Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf <br> (uncomment the line in Section Serverlayout)<br> <br> Section "ServerLayout"<br> Identifier "X.org Configured"<br> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0<br> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"<br> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"<br> #Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"<br> EndSection<br> <br> <br> </blockquote> </div> </blockquote> <p><br> </p> </div> </blockquote></div> </div>home | help
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