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Date:      Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:01:32 -0500
From:      "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" <alex.kovalenko@verizon.net>
To:        Dag-Erling =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        svein-listmail@d80.iso100.no, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Mikael Ikivesi <mikael.ikivesi@pp.inet.fi>
Subject:   Re: 2 core dumps
Message-ID:  <1203692492.63435.16.camel@RabbitsDen>
In-Reply-To: <86oda9oxxe.fsf@ds4.des.no>
References:  <20080219104532.0dc2b565@chaos.nox> <47BDB92C.9050808@d80.iso100.no> <20080222113646.2dbb9ec1@chaos.nox> <86zlttqmc9.fsf@ds4.des.no> <1203686245.63435.12.camel@RabbitsDen> <86oda9oxxe.fsf@ds4.des.no>

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On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:42 +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" <alex.kovalenko@verizon.net> writes:
> > Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@des.no> writes:
> >> Your laptop overheats when running at its rated frequency?  That's your
> >> answer.  Hardware error.  [...]
> > If "overheated" in this context means "initiated critical shutdown"
> > [...]
> 
> No, unless the Athlon has an internal temperature sensor and shuts
> itself down when it reaches critical temperature, like the Intel Core
> and Core 2 do.
> 
> You can't rely on the BIOS or the OS to do it, because you have no idea
> where the temperature sensor they rely on is placed.
If I rephrase my point as 

"The fact that OS initiated shutdown because it thinks that your laptop
has reached certain temperature threshold does not necessarily mean that
your hardware is damaged."

would you be more amenable to agreeing with it?

> 
> > However, if "overheated" means "discolored and deformed plastic parts",
> > you are absolutely right.
> 
> Right.  Your laptop is dead.  Deal with it.
> 
> DES
-- 
Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко)




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