Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:03:30 +0000 From: David Taylor <davidt@yadt.co.uk> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pkg-based base system. Message-ID: <20040318190330.GA6854@gattaca.yadt.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4059EB88.4060702@kientzle.com> References: <20040318172720.GA31299@online.fr> <4059EB88.4060702@kientzle.com>
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Tim Kientzle wrote: > Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > >Richard Coleman wrote: > > > >>But I don't think anyone is advocating Linux-style granularity of > >>packages. Most people just want a little finer granularity to handle > >>bind, sendmail, dhcp, and maybe openssh. > > > >Yes, and nobody is suggesting removing anything from the base system, > >merely making it easier for the end-user to remove unnecessary base > >components. > > You don't have to remove one thing to use something else. > > Many FreeBSD systems use alternative software without > touching the base system. Just disable the base components > in rc.conf and run your own. You can also "upgrade" any > existing piece by installing a newer port and disabling the > pieces in the base system. > > In the particular case of sendmail, look at the mailwrapper > functionality, which simply redirects the standard "sendmail" > name to your favorite MTA. It's been in FreeBSD since 4.0 > and makes it quite trivial to use any MTA you like instead > of the built-in sendmail. > I never thought I'd hear someone advocating bloat in open source software, but that is essentially what you're saying. Sure, I _can_ just install multiple packages which do exactly the same thing, and turn the ones I don't want off, but it is nice to have the _choice_ not to have to install the default one, but to use my favourite instead. But I think I've done this bikeshed before, so I'll try to refrain from commenting further on this thread... -- David Taylor davidt@yadt.co.uk "The future just ain't what it used to be"
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