Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:28:31 -0500 From: WiggTekMicro Corp <wiggtekmicro@comcast.net> To: Brian OQR <brian@oqr.nl>, Mobile-BSDlist <freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org> Subject: Unable to use flsh/q-time/mpeg/ports,etc Message-ID: <1070101711.23751.63.camel@gate1.wiggtekmicro> In-Reply-To: <20031129105750.A54122@oqr.nl> References: <20031127200053.CE74C16A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> <1070095258.23751.27.camel@gate1.wiggtekmicro> <20031129105750.A54122@oqr.nl>
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--=-3hrsARA+BY8ktJLCt/0Q Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I apologize if I appeared to be condisending to anyone with my frustrated manor, in my prior email. I will be more basic, and emotionless in future emails. I am not saying that I am one of those guys who clusters. I am a physics major, and use UNIX as a hobby/only source of computer interface. I am new to the FreeBSD side, and have had extensive problems with turn-key answers such as "read-the-website" and "there-are-tons-of-things-to-read" . The problem is never finding something to read, or simply reading the websites such as FreeBSD.org. The problem comes when I have a current, practical, problem that require simply having the appropriate applications, or pkg-add/port information. Such as ports, half of the ports that I try to install, other than the hard-core server/hacker/"cluster" stuff, does not even finish the make process. People always seem to say that things are so straight-forward, even simple, on FreeBSD, but I ended up having to choose my own method of partitioning, via trial and error full installations, in lou of having three books, and the fbsdmall handbook, available, just to keep the system from thinking that its filesystem was full, when it actuallly had 150 gigs left everywhere other than the /root 's partition. Back to the simple answer of, "Well he just must not be very savy..." I have read enough to know that there is not a very good explanation of how to get simple things to work/play on Freebsd. I am unable to even download and install the port for some things, it always gives me an error 1, and refers to some error file, which is never mentioned in any book that I have ever read(3+freebsdmall handbook). The same with /port/net/openldap-server-etc... However, when I downloaded it from the site, and tar-ed it up, I have the full working software. I am still trying to find a way to install openoffice. There are several entries in the ports tree, however, the one that I need to work, never finished the "make" fetching process. I assume that the make file is refering to the wrong places, but I did not alter them, so why are they shipping with incorrect information in more than just that port tree???? I guess now one may at least understand the cause of my frustration. (I would hope) If you have a website that I can read and that will at least give me a usable port tree to download and install a working version of flash-enabled mozilla, then I will humbly bow down before your extensive knowledge-base. Otherwise, I am still unable to find out how to install the plugins for mozilla, or even figure out how to use linux software, since I have installed the compatibility for base 7.1,etc... I have just installed netscape 7.1 via the linux-installer version, but when I tried to install the flash-installer, it knew that it was not on linux, but freebsd. Why the difference if linux is supposed to run on freebsd? Those loop-holes in the turn-key explanations on such websites as the ones that you are probably talking about, are the ones that have been giving me a problem, for the last month, in between Classical Mechanics and Electromagnetism work/projects. -- Respectfully, Martes G.W. Wiggtekmicro Corp. --=-3hrsARA+BY8ktJLCt/0Q Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - Re: freebsd-mobile Digest, Vol 36, Issue 4 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from testbox.oqr.nl ([62.177.154.89]) by rwcrmxc15.comcast.net (rwcrmxc15) with ESMTP id <20031129095310r15003aoive>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:53:10 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [62.177.154.89] Received: from testbox.oqr.nl (testbox.oqr.nl [62.177.154.89]) by testbox.oqr.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id hAT9voTd054247 for <wiggtekmicro@comcast.net>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:57:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from brian@testbox.oqr.nl) Received: (from brian@localhost) by testbox.oqr.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id hAT9voEv054246 for wiggtekmicro@comcast.net; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:57:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:57:50 +0100 From: Brian OQR <brian@oqr.nl> To: WiggTekMicro Corp <wiggtekmicro@comcast.net> Subject: Re: freebsd-mobile Digest, Vol 36, Issue 4 Message-ID: <20031129105750.A54122@oqr.nl> References: <20031127200053.CE74C16A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> <1070095258.23751.27.camel@gate1.wiggtekmicro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <1070095258.23751.27.camel@gate1.wiggtekmicro>; from wiggtekmicro@comcast.net on Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:40:58AM -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Does anyone know how or where to get a web browser that actually lets > you view the web, use mozilla, when it has been written using one of the updated > media formats. I have been trying to find one for a month now, > of-and-on, but nothing seems to work. I have 4.9 on my lifebook. That > has a bit less to do with it, than the fact that there is virtually no > support for this operating system. This operating systems has as far as i am concerned has bettter support the the other open source os's,, the project is clean and there are articles and books everywhere. I just want to read websites that > use jave-javascript-macromedia-flash-etc.... Why is it so difficult for > BSD to allow the use of the operating system for simple things. On the > freeBSDmall box, the first thing you see is a comment about "serious web > users" what is the deal?? MOzilla runs perfectly, if you know anything about browser you will realize that javascript, CSS, and all other web standards are embraced an implemented in MOzilla, if you have not install Xwindows or mozilla go to the ports and make install, This is really simple. simpler then windows I am not even a serious web user and I am > seeing the limitations of using the web, unless I wanted to build a > super-clustering-calculating-for-nothing-other-than-the-fact-that-the-OS-can project. > What ? if you are some genius programmer you would have never sent this mail,you are a super cluster genius who has found the web to be limited. how is the web limited? and what is the web to you? > Please, someone, give me a clue, because after a month of this, I am > wondering how a company like yahoo.com can using this operating system, > when it can barely show the content on its own site... ? are you normally using unix? buy the book absolute bsd or something, these are novice questions, this should have take all of a few hours to solve? The company Yahoo does not run bsd on the laptop. HOwever i do an every one of your complaints are easly solve by reading the freebsd.org website. simple solution use the ports collection install www/mozilla and www/plugger. then install the java sdk of your choice for applets. actually www.onlamp.com i believe has an article on seting up freebsd for multimedia I can play an d convert all media files on my freebsd (asf, wmv, rm , ram, mpg, mp3 ett.) I can run applets , css, javascript, etc. i can view basic flash movie but movies made with advanced flash scripting still do not work. good luck brian > -- > Respectfully, > > Martes G.W. > Wiggtekmicro Corp. > I use bsd on my laptop and run Mozilla, the lastest versions, an it works perfectely, if you goto onlamp.com you can find articles on how to install all necessary plugins. The flash problem is not from freebsd but from macromedia, the flash player self does not work very well, because a new flash player is released every 6 months by macromedia the linus player is a bit behind. I am not sure if flash will every really be possible unless macromedia decides to make the plugin itself. --=-3hrsARA+BY8ktJLCt/0Q--
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