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Date:      Mon, 05 Jul 1999 13:42:39 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
To:        Nicolas Blais <nicblais@videotron.ca>
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: HELP!!! -CURRENT libtool problem. 
Message-ID:  <66021.931207359@zippy.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:04:46 EDT." <37810FDD.C1321FE7@videotron.ca> 

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> Hi.  I've finally installed FreeBSD 4.0 and to tell you the truth, I'm
> not very impressed.  I was expecting some bugs but not like that...

I don't see a problem with FreeBSD 4.0 so much as a problem with
someone jumping beyond their abilities. :)

Please, go back to 3.2-STABLE.  4.0-CURRENT is a *development* version
and you're expected to understand how to deal with things like
applications breakage (including how to recompile libtool and any
other components you may need) before doing anything as rash as
running 4.0-current.

I'm also sure this response will probably scare a few people off and
garner stern rebukes from the newbie hand-holding folks, but it's
honestly always been the case that -current is NOT for anyone but the
advanced class students and we like it that way because we'd otherwise
spend more time coaching people over the bumps than we did in actually
working on -current and evolving FreeBSD significantly at all.

Think of -current as an operating room where surgeons are actively
working on a patient under anaesthesia - do you really want just
anybody wandering in there to ask the doctors random questions while
they work or do you maybe want to limit participation to only those
with some prior medical training?

I also make this point now and with such force because various signs
and portents indicate that -current is about to become a dangerous
place again for awhile, and a lot of people who really don't have the
cojones to run -current are going to find this out rather abruptly and
painfully. :-)

- Jordan


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