Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:53:56 +0000 From: Chris Rees <utisoft@googlemail.com> To: Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD Message-ID: <b79ecaef0912120953he8c4b4q79519bfdb87de9c8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20091211232356.309C21CC09@ptavv.es.net> References: <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091211232356.309C21CC09@ptavv.es.net>
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2009/12/11 Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net>: >> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 +0000 >> From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> >> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org >> >> Polytropon wrote: >> > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." <sfourman@gmail.= com> wrote: >> >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed >> >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't coun= t >> >> dragonflyBSD) >> > >> > VMS would be #0, then? :-) >> >> I dunno. =A0Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... > > I'm sure that there are systems happily running MSDOS, but I bet not too > many are networked. > > I know that there is still a lot of VMS out there and that it has > remained a cash cow for HP. It lived on primarily in the banking and > financial sector, though I guess the use is dropping since HP recently > outsourced support to India and that lead to the retirement of the last > of the original VMS developers, Andy Goldstein. > > Also, the the end of TECO as Andy was responsible for porting it to > almost every platform DEC ever sold (RSX, RSTS, VMS, TOPS-10 and > TOPS-20, RT-11, and several others) and continued to maintain it until > his retirement. (Most readers of this list probably don't even remember > TECO.) > > And, for may years VMS had major network security problems, especially > the infamous default DECNET/DECNET account that lead to may compromises > and the second major network worm, Worms Against Nuclear Killers. (I > won't use the acronym so as not to offend our British readers. I found > out about that when the BBC interviewed me about it and I was told that > I could not utter the word.) Wow, I didn't know your side don't use that word... I thought I knew about all the stereotypically British ones! Do you guys have any curses or insults at all??? Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list?
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