Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 00:31:47 +0300 From: Arto Pekkanen <isoa@kapsi.fi> To: Matthew Macy <mmacy@nextbsd.org> Cc: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gfx-next update: drm-4.8-rc2 tagged in drm-next Message-ID: <b3c221ae6d691122cd815950dbdf4e5b@kapsi.fi> In-Reply-To: <1576a3129d6.df449a6798184.3431483148132229583@nextbsd.org> References: <CAGhTqAXdNBTbdvSzBUFaOMY10jEMy6MehNqN%2BFfdZVpZ5Y1Rbg@mail.gmail.com> <439e20fa-6385-68fb-c97e-24705ebd2f94@nomadlogic.org> <157496f7268.ac5eb5ca278618.8741026532558973404@nextbsd.org> <3FEE7DD3-C408-4398-9F0B-5529B2E7A61F@transactionware.com> <1574b8980bc.106a6e9ef306540.4216158444646545056@nextbsd.org> <20160926192637.33f7921b@azsupport.com> <157683d1ec0.11a09775b76996.945490951353894015@nextbsd.org> <20160927031041.31b6f90a@azsupport.com> <157693fc60a.ebf27bd286215.2625530085502855667@nextbsd.org> <20160927033819.2670e3f1@azsupport.com> <20160927015534.GA1345@lonesome.com> <CAN6yY1vPzjvMyc%2Bxxs587EpwgGe6%2BCAdXqYjw66YjZafT4YUfg@mail.gmail.com> <1576a3129d6.df449a6798184.3431483148132229583@nextbsd.org>
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Matthew Macy kirjoitti 27.09.2016 08:49: > > Thanks for your support, but let's not get too excited if somebody > gets his account hacked or just plain gets lonely in his mother's > basement and needs attention. I've privately asked that he be removed > from the lists. Actually, my theory is he tried to bring his tribalistic Slashdot and/or Phoronix trolling mentality into the FreeBSD mailing lists. And he now will learn we don't take that kind of attitude here ;D > So long as 99% of people are duly respectful of the fact that this has > been a great deal of work and that there is more work that lies ahead > we'll be fine. The last two KMS updates gestated a year out of tree > before going in. This update started in late April so if it were to be > fully stabilized and all be in by November that would be quite an > accomplishment. On top of that this is actually much bigger in many > respects in that it bridges more than 3 1/2 years of kernel releases > and shifts all the localized complexity out of the drivers themselves. > In theory at least, the shifting of complexity will make it much > easier for myself and others to track whatever happens to be the > latest Linux release and thus may allow FreeBSD to maintain support > for the latest hardware on an ongoing basis. Of course it will require > continued work to support. It remains to be seen if the community can > muster up that effort in one form or another on a sustained basis. I think I've experienced similar efforts work out previously, such as the NDIS -wrapper or the Video4Linux stuff. I am being very, very optimistic in regards to this project :) Kevin Oberman wrote: > > contributions and have a real desire to help FreeBSD as well as its > > derivatives. They do the work. They work with FreeBSD on the > freebsd-x11@ > > users to get testing done, and, when it looks good, submit it to > > Phabricator for review, and ask for review. NextBSD was never > mentioned and > > suddenly someone jumps up and yells "Go away. We don't serve your > kind > > here!". Just because he works on NextBSD. Tell you what... move it > to > > freebsd-advacocy@ where this sort of thing belongs or just go away. > Let > > Matthew get this done. If anyone is banned from the list, it's > Andrei. (And > > I am NOT advocating that.) Kevin, I'll interject again that they especially do NOT allow that kind of behaviour that Andrei presented in freebsd-advocacy@ ;) But that's all I have to say about this, let us move on. -- Arto Pekkanen
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