Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:06:19 -0800 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "Cliff Sarginson" <cliff@raggedclown.net>, <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: Who has been pissing Tucows off ? Message-ID: <000201c08ba8$2101b320$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <E14NxNH-0005Wi-00@post.mail.nl.demon.net>
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Twocowpies is lying with their public reasoning about arguments between the BSD groups. They don't want to reveal the truth. What the truth simply is, is that twocowpies gets their money from ad revenue for banner ads. They know how much money it costs to field download resources, ie: disk space, CPU space, network bandwidth. They pay for this with banner hits - not banner click-throughs mind you, but hits. Looking at Windows download software, you have a very favorable business setup. You have lots of itty-bitty files that lots of people are going to. Furthermore, people don't tend to get onto twocowpies and suck the entire Windows directory down, they get files by onesie-twosie thus giving optimal hit counts to the banner ads. The Linux group is a lot like this too - the general userbase in Linux is of a lower sophistication level, much more of Linux is all about GUIifying everything so the common monkey can use it, and while that crowd isn't as easily-led as the Windows crowd, they are more like Windows users then they are like BSD users. With BSD software, on the other hand, your talking about giant files that people tend to get up and snarf the entire lot. Worse, once the initial giant files are snarfed, further access, often done by the ports manager, is totally automated. Thus, you get minimal exposure to banner ads for a far, far, larger and more resource-consumptive download, then once you give the people that, your never going to get a banner hit from them again, because they are going to be using FTP or wget. The crowning straw that broke the proverbial camels back, of course, is that the FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD groups all want SEPARATE DOWNLOAD AREAS, thus instead of ONE file that will suffice for all THREE groups, you have to have THREE SEPARATE FILES, tripling your disk space requirements. SO, what obviously happened is that twocowpies went into this like a totally green newbie - they obviously heard from someone how the ftp.freebsd.org site gets millions of bytes downloaded, they figured they would impress their business model on the BSD community, and when they attempted to do it, the BSD community basically said "you do it our way or don't do it at all, and our way doesen't involve you dumping a bunch of advertising down our throats" So, naturally in the absense of a revenue stream, they decided to step out of the cowpie they had gotten themselves into, and instead of doing the honorable thing and admitting they were a bunch of dumbasses that didn't understand Real Computing, in a fit of pique they made up a giant poke of baloney about a nonexistent fight between BSD groups. So much for twocowpies, they have really shown their true colors here. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Cliff Sarginson > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 5:33 AM > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Who has been pissing Tucows off ? > > > I just noticed Tucows have stopped housing BSD stuff. > Who has been saying what to them ? > > jeez... > Cliff > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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