Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 18:48:50 +0100 From: Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.homeip.net> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://users.uk.freebsd.org/~juha/ Message-ID: <20020305184850.A91623@energyhq.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <3C84FC43.607F91E6@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 09:11:31AM -0800 References: <000c01c1c322$df0f22a0$0101a8c0@noc2> <20020304202541.U91555-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> <20020305015104.GA40292@core.usrlib.org> <20020305114625.GA11426@raggedclown.net> <20020305144726.B89475@energyhq.homeip.net> <3C84FC43.607F91E6@mindspring.com>
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--vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 09:11:31AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > A hacker looks, but does not touch; hacking is a result > of a curious nature. Agreed, hackers have ethics. Look but don't touch. But I think there are two sides of the 'force'. IMHO, in a computer world, both Yoda and Darth Vader would be hackers, the fact the Vader was seduced by the dark side doesn't mean he is less knowledgeable on the subject. Both can get into a computer system, Yoda won't touch anything, Vader would. > Any true hacker has a Bushido-style sense of honor. A > hacker is a Samurai. Heh, is that a hidden reference to Shimomura? :-P > Ken Thompson is a hacker. Dennis Ritchie is a hacker. > Kirk McKusick is a hacker. Agreed, so is Morris, of the Internet Worm fame. Did he cause damage? Yes, but coded that worm, so he is a hacker. What counts for me is wether you learned or you just grabbed a script/exploit. Of course, if someone just comes and writes: "h3y, 1 am @ 1337 H@X0R", the moron-o-meter raises dramatically :-P IMHO there should be no such distinction, a hacker is a hacker and what most people refer to as cracker is just some idiot with too much spare time and a bunch of scripts he just downloaded from rootshell.com and whathaveyou. So instead of reading "www.ebay.com under moron attack" we read hacker/cracker instead on newspapers, too bad. > The "freebsd-hackers" mailing list was named correctly, Of course it is, I never said otherwise. > even if some idiots don't get the point and post asking > for "W4R3Z" occasionally. We usually point them to the > top "W4R3Z" site on the net, one so secret it has no DNS > name: 127.0.0.1. Or the good old http://hot:warez@goatse.cx, yes :-) > And no, we aren't going to change the FreeBSD mascot to > something other than the BSD Daemon, thanks. LMAO > And yes, we have all your personal information on file, > we just aren't going to do anything with it. 8-). Well, online privacy doesn't really exist, does it? :) Cheers, --=20 Miguel Mendez - flynn@energyhq.homeip.net GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk FreeBSD - The power to serve! --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8hQUBnLctrNyFFPERAmsQAJ9KtKxNoZqkmj+4FHtUExrg5JSh0wCeIgwe geKbOnxXtfkAWKbdmPTXg74= =7/Mc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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