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Date:      Thu, 3 May 2001 21:16:04 +0200
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        jessemonroy@email.com, jkh@osd.bsdi.com
Cc:        jessemonroy@email.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jessem@livecam.com
Subject:   Re: [jkh@osd.bsdi.com: ANNOUNCE: Status update on ftp.freebsd.org A     KA ftp.freesoftware.com]
Message-ID:  <p05100309b7175b936a24@[10.0.1.2]>
In-Reply-To: <200105031853.LAA12484@dnull.com>
References:  <200105031853.LAA12484@dnull.com>

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At 11:53 AM -0700 5/3/01, jessem@livecam.com wrote:

>  charter-smarter... the point is everyone within the FreeBSD community
>  should be aware of this situation.

	I'm sure they probably are.

>                                     If anything, this is a rally
>  call for BSDers.

	If it is, then I suspect that the majority of them will be aware 
of the charters of the various mailing lists, and will use them 
appropriately -- unlike what you appear to have done.

>                   I'm upset because there are people within
>  the community that are fully willing to help, be involved and
>  spend their *own* money to see this through. As such, -hackers (et al.)
>  should know this to be the case.

	There are plenty of people in the community who are not on the 
-hackers mailing list.  Indeed, I suspect that the vast majority of 
them are not on the -hackers mailing list.

	I've been involved peripherally with FreeBSD for a while now, and 
as bold and uncouth as I have a reputation of being (which can be 
verified by friend and foe alike), even I have never had the temerity 
to even look at the -hackers mailing list, much less ever post 
anything there.

	No, the -hackers mailing list is primarily the province of people 
with deep knowledge of FreeBSD in general and various aspects of the 
kernel, etc... in particular.


	Seventeen years of experience on the 'net have taught me that one 
does not lightly interfere in the matters of Wizards, Gurus, and 
Dragons -- unless one appreciates the taste of global thermonuclear 
war being set off in their gizzard.

	You would be wise to learn this lesson at a much earlier point in 
your life, as doing so would hopefully help you to avoid making some 
of the mistakes I have made in the past.

>  Emailing you privately has prove to be less than useful.

	I have certainly had my own disagreements with Jordan, and I 
would normally be one of the last to stand up in his defense.

	However, the simple fact of the matter is that you are being 
rude, crude, socially unnacceptable (even within this typically 
socially-challenged community), and generally making enough of an ass 
of yourself to annoy me to the point where I am taking his side over 
yours.  That takes quite some doing.


	Mistakes happen, get over it.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

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