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Date:      Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:05:19 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        scott@igc.org
Cc:        freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Hams Report 85-mile 802.11b File Transfers @ Oregon
Message-ID:  <20040415.090519.106533486.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <04041413050408.02105@sandino.dnsalias.org>
References:  <407D7323.50001@pacbell.net> <04041413050408.02105@sandino.dnsalias.org>

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            Scott Weikart <scott@igc.org> writes:
: I would assume the hams used directional antennas on both ends, and
: carefully pointed the antennas at each other.
: 
: So, this may have little relevance to monitoring people's
: mostly-omnidirectional wireless LANs.  Well, maybe you could so some
: math to make the ham's numbers scale, but I would guess there are
: more direct methods to measure/compute risk.

Well, if I put a 30dBm dish on my end, then you still have a problem.

I had a 24dBm dish that I played around with from the water tower near
my house.  I saw like 300 different networks...  Not all of them well,
but if I really wanted to eaves drop on any of them, I could do so...
Some of them were confirmed to be a few couple miles away.

Warner



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