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Date:      Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:41:35 -0500
From:      Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>, Kurt Seifried <seifried@securityportal.com>
Cc:        Moses Backman III <penguinjedi@home.com>, Todd Backman <todd@flyingcroc.net>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: woah
Message-ID:  <p04330105b664186fb45b@[128.113.24.47]>
In-Reply-To: <20001218112434.C19572@fw.wintelcom.net>
References:   <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012172347240.48779-100000@security1.noc.flyingcroc.net> <20001218133716.A550@cg22413-a.adubn1.nj.home.com> <20001218104954.B19572@fw.wintelcom.net> <005a01c06924$77186340$ca00030a@seifried.org> <20001218112434.C19572@fw.wintelcom.net>

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At 11:24 AM -0800 12/18/00, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>In a perfect world, you have your admin send you a pgp signed
>message with the server public key in it.  When you initially
>authenticate, you sure as hell make sure it matches.
>
>Not that difficult.

Not for those of you living in a perfect world.  In our (RPI)
world, we have a few thousand users, most of whom are not
doing anything with PGP.  Most of them do not really understand
that warning message, and the situation is not helped because
we (the administrators of a few hundred unix machines) do not
do a good job of keeping the ssh host-key constant.

Some of these issues are just tough to deal with in an
imperfect world...
-- 
Garance Alistair Drosehn            =   gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer           or  gad@freebsd.org
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute    or  drosih@rpi.edu


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