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Date:      Mon, 14 Nov 2022 07:10:44 +0900
From:      Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>
To:        Steve Rikli <sr@genyosha.net>
Cc:        louis.freebsd@xs4all.nl, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: DESPARATE: How to stop FreeBSD form sleeping / disable ACPI? (on FreeBSD14 CURRENT)
Message-ID:  <20221114071044.ded87a4bd11f9aa8e948ebcf@dec.sakura.ne.jp>
In-Reply-To: <Y3Eu/ODt1FnxCwR6@dragon.home.genyosha.net>
References:  <202211130022.2AD0MYiW023709@chez.mckusick.com> <000d01d8f777$42eb10a0$c8c131e0$@xs4all.nl> <Y3Eu/ODt1FnxCwR6@dragon.home.genyosha.net>

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On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 09:53:00 -0800
Steve Rikli <sr@genyosha.net> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 04:47:40PM +0100, louis.freebsd@xs4all.nl wrote:
> > I noticed that after disabling gdm in /etc/rc.conf ^"gdm_enable="N"^ the system stays active.
> > However ..... that is also the end the GUI .... in this case GNOME.
> > 
> > Since I could not work which a machine hibernating every ^10 minutes^, I have disabled gdm for the moment. 
> > That does not take away that that is ...... ridiculous !!
> 
> Seems like you aren't alone in that opinion -- there are several threads
> for multiple OSes about this same topic. Kirk's findings below match my
> recollection -- this is Gnome default behavior nowdays.
> 
> In any case, since we obviously can't use the Linux systemD settings to
> control the behavior in FreeBSD, a few folks mentioned other workarounds
> with things like dconf; e.g. this suggestion which came originally from
> the Arch linux folks:
> 
> https://twitter.com/_neelc/status/1487200568149831681
> 
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/GDM#GDM_auto-suspend_(GNOME_3.28)
> 
> Something like:
> 
>   sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gsettings set \
>   org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power sleep-inactive-ac-type 'nothing'
> 
> >From the threads, it sounds like part of the problem is this behavior and
> settings are per-user, so making a system-wide change is hard. Not sure
> how this workaround will play in your situation.
> 
> My FreeBSD servers don't run a gui display manager; my Debian laptop
> runs gdm3 display manager but I switched to Xfce for the window manager
> around the time Gnome3 came out (too many changes for my taste).  Fwiw
> the Xfce Power Manager has controls for system power save / sleep mode
> for "On battery" and "Plugged in", including "never".

Found these.

 https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/289640/how-to-create-a-default-system-wide-dconf-setting-starting-from-just-created-ad

 https://askubuntu.com/questions/1038184/how-to-lockdown-system-wide-settings-with-dconf

/etc/ in those should be read /usr/local/etc/ on FreeBSD.
And possibly defaults of each application are stored
under /usr/local/share/ or under /usr/local/lib/.

BTW, I'm basically using x11/mate, a fork from Gnome2.
It doesn't sleep by default on AC powerline.
(Old installation succeeding Gnome2 settings. So current default could
be different, though.)

> 
> Cheers,
> sr.
> 
> 
> > There should be a way to disable ACPI in FreeBSD so that even gdm can not "kill" the machine !!
> > I say ^kill^ because there is also another bug, the machine is not properly restarting form hibernation, 
> > Even not from S1.
> > 
> > Louis  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kirk McKusick <mckusick@freebsd.org> 
> > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 1:23 AM
> > To: louis.freebsd@xs4all.nl
> > Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org
> > Subject: Re: DESPARATE: How to stop FreeBSD form sleeping / disable ACPI? (on FreeBSD14 CURRENT)
> > 
> > > From: <louis.freebsd@xs4all.nl>
> > > To: <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org>
> > > Subject: DESPARATE: How to stop FreeBSD form sleeping / disable ACPI? 
> > > (on FreeBSD14 CURRENT)
> > > Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 21:29:21 +0100
> > > 
> > > I am still desperately trying to stop FreeBSD from sleeping, but I 
> > > simply do not manage.
> > > 
> > > It is really very annoying that I have to restart the machine every
> > > 10 minutes, when I am working via SSH.
> > > 
> > > So if any one has a solution, it would be very much appreciated!
> > > 
> > > It should ….. be possible to kill / stop ACPI some how 〓
> > > 
> > > If absolutely not possible in the actual build 〓, a cron job 
> > > restarting the timer every 5 minutes perhaps !!???
> > > 
> > > It is possible perhaps … that GNOME is initiating this, despite that 
> > > the GUI powersetting is screenblank “NEVER”.   
> > > 
> > > Whatever is causing the problem, the settings should be such that ^no 
> > > whatever program^ should not be capable to initiate the sleepmode.
> > > 
> > > Louis
> > 
> > If you are using Gnome, Gnome suspends the machine after 20 minutes if there is no mouse or keyboard activity. I went into settings, but there is no way to adjust this feature. Some web searching brought me to this page:
> > 
> > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/22
> > 
> > Apparently the 20-minute suspend was made unchangable (at least not without changing the source code for Gnome and rebuilding it).
> > Apparently this change was made to comply with EU power regulations.
> > Anyway, this ruled out Gnome for me.
> > 
> > 	Kirk McKusick
> 


-- 
Tomoaki AOKI    <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>



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