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Date:      Tue, 29 May 2001 12:54:17 -0600
From:      Chris Moline <ugly-daemon@home.com>
To:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The desktop apathy
Message-ID:  <20010529125417.C59899@h24-67-61-12.lb.shawcable.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010528235553.G12149@messiah.megadeb.org>; from chopra@runbox.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:55:53PM %2B0200
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On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:55:53PM +0200, Munish Chopra wrote:
> I have to agree here. After seriously working with both KDE and Gnome
> for the past way-too-long, KDE is moving to a generally usable stage
> much faster. It seems to be winning out on two big points: Speed (it's
> both fast _and_ snappy, which unfortunately can't be said for the latest
> Gnome), and Konqueror, which I guess is KDE's killer-app. 
> 
> I used to be more of a Gnome guy, but KDE is making leaps and bounds
> that are hard to ignore. Personally, I still 'feel the bloat' though.
> Luckily, the kdebase2 port removes a lot of that, but I guess I'm just
> not a Desktop Environment kind of guy. Simple window manager, and fast
> please (BlackBox anyone?).
> 
> But KDE is promising less bloat and more speed, and since they seem to
> keep what they promise, I can't help but look forward to the next
> releases.
I think KDE is improving too. I don't use it because it is still too slow, and
because I don't need all the stuff it comes with. I do, however, use Konqueror
for my browser. I was using Mozilla before and boy I was so happy to find
Konqueror.
However, I still think KDE and every other open source desktop still have alot
of improvement to make before they are as good as or better than the Mac or any
of the lesser-known-but-just-as-good( beos, riscos, qnx, ...).
And then on top of that, I don't really see the need for a desktop. I am a
newbie coder. I mostly just screw around with BSD and radio. What I would like
is for FreeBSD to be as easy as a Mac or a BeBox. I think it can be done and
done well. Not only that but I think one day FreeBSd will be that neat.

Sincerly,
Chris Moline

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