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Date:      Wed, 5 Jul 2017 23:30:10 +0200
From:      Per olof Ljungmark <peo@intersonic.se>
To:        Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD did it again (still)
Message-ID:  <563b14d5-ebfb-62b6-28ac-3ebbd663d067@intersonic.se>
In-Reply-To: <020431a6-1a7d-d80e-0725-585c21f3ef27@columbus.rr.com>
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On 2017-07-06 03:21, Baho Utot wrote:
> 
> 
> On 7/5/2017 4:31 PM, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
>> On 2017-07-06 01:54, Baho Utot wrote:
>>> Up graded an old laptop from 10.1 to 11.0-p10.  I then checked out 
>>> the latest quarterly ports.  I figured that FreeBSD would barf and I 
>>> was not disappointed. Built the ports with synth and then I installed 
>>> them, xorg promptly shit itself.
>>>
>>> So I typed pkg autoremove just for shits and giggles.  Before the 
>>> upgrade pkg autoremove did nothing ( nothing to remove ) the latest 
>>> pkg wanted to remove all of Xorg and some other things but not remove 
>>> lumina.  Figure that one out.
>>>
>>> Working on figuring this out.
>>>
>>> Can you tell me why FreeBSD doesn't need versioned ports again? I am 
>>> just looking for something that works, I don't need the last version 
>>> of xyz that just came off the press.
>>>
>>> Thinking I may need to leave FreeBSD and find something that is 
>>> stable/works.  An upgrade from a recent version should not requir 
>>> days to weeks to get it to work.
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not sure what you are aiming at here but - just felt I had to comment.
>> You are probably right that there must be cohersion between packages 
>> and system when using prebuilt binaries.
>>
>> My way of doing it is the opposite, everything is compiled from 
>> source, the classic *nix way. This way, FreeBSD has never let me down.
>>
>> I think the best approach if you have an older system where it takes 
>> ages to compile, you really need to follow a strict path using 
>> packages. On a more recent system, nothing beats source builds.
>>
>> There has been a lot of discussion over this matter recently, please 
>> understand that this is not RedHat or Ubuntu, the resources needed to 
>> keep up with building binaries are limited in comparison. If you need 
>> prebuilt packages, please just contribute to the work.
>>
>> Just my SEK 0.2
>>
>> //per
> 
> I built the ports from svn source using synth I did not use prebuilt 
> binaries.  I did do it the classic *nix way.

That was odd. But if you provide more detailed info I'm sure there is 
help on the list.

I only use portmaster due to its ease of use, have no experience from synth.

//per



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