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Date:      Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:58:22 +0000
From:      Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking chapter.sgml
Message-ID:  <20040728105822.GD52195@hub.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20040728105443.GA19031@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv>
References:  <200407281011.i6SABwac090675@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040728105443.GA19031@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv>

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On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 01:54:43PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> I meant to ask a while ago, when I saw similar commits, but I postponed
> it and then forgot to ask.  When is it considered good style to remove
> the frames from tables?  Does the choise depend on the output format or
> is there some other reason?

frames never look good in print output.  The stylesheets are braindead
and there is no padding between the contents and the border.  Even if
that is manually added in the TeX processing stage, it still looks out
of place because for print output you just want the line separating
the column headers from the data -- anything else and the page looks
too cluttered at best, and like a printed web page at worst.

As for HTML output, I don't feel too strongly either way.  I don't
think with or without frames makes too much of a difference.  If
someone thinks that some table in the HTML output looks a lot better
with frames, then we can come up with an entity or stylesheet change,
or parameter use to use framed tables in HTML output and non-framed in
print output.

	- Murray



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