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Date:      Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:58:12 +0800
From:      YC Wang <wangyc0307@gmail.com>
To:        "illoai@gmail.com" <illoai@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: How does freebsd supports ipx?
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2012/10/16 illoai@gmail.com <illoai@gmail.com>:
> On 15 October 2012 02:23, YC Wang <wangyc0307@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...
>>
>> I rebuilt the kernel with "option IPX", but it didn't seem to work.
>> Below was what I did:
>>
>> 1) create a new configure file IPXKERNEL enabling "option IPX"
>> freebsd-yc# cat /sys/i386/conf/IPXKERNEL
>> include GENERIC
>> ident IPXKERNEL
>> options IPX
>>
>> 2) make buildkerel KERNCONF=IPXKERNEL. When finised, I found that the
>> ipx source code did get compiled, but hadn't been linked into a kernel
>> module.
>> freebsd-yc# find /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/ | grep  ipx
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/arcnet/opt_ipx.h
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/if_ef/opt_ipx.h
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/if_tun/opt_ipx.h
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/netgraph/iface/opt_ipx.h
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/smbfs/opt_ipx.h
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/sppp/opt_ipx.h
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/wlan/opt_ipx.h
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/opt_ipx.h
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/ipx.o
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/ipx_cksum.o
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/ipx_input.o
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/ipx_outputfl.o
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/ipx_pcb.o
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/ipx_proto.o
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL/ipx_usrreq.o
>>
>> 3) Still I installed the new kernel with "make installkernel
>> KERNCONF=IPXKERNEL", and as expected, it was exactly the same to the
>> old one.
>> freebsd-yc# ls /boot/kernel > kernel.txt
>> freebsd-yc# ls /boot/kernel.old/ > kernelold.txt
>> freebsd-yc# diff kernel.txt kernelold.txt
>>
>> So do you have any idea about this? The information of my system is:
>> freebsd-yc# uname -a
>> FreeBSD freebsd-yc.vm 8.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct 15
>> 11:20:49 CST 2012
>> root@freebsd-yc.vm:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IPXKERNEL  i386
>>
>
> % kldstat -v | grep ipx
> might be enlightening.
>
> I don't know if you're trying to connect to a netware
> server, but . . .
>
> Back in the old-old days of FreeBSD 4.6 or so, I
> connected to a netware (4-something, IIRC) server
> using ipx/spx & ncp (options IPX, options NCP,
> options NWFS) & it seemed to work pretty well.
> But I haven't used it since 6.x, & I no longer
> connect to any netware machines, so I have
> no idea if it sill works.  I believe at the time it
> may have also required "options LIBMCHAIN" &
> "options FLOWTABLE", but that might have
> been a local issue.
>
> In the local network, I also had to have ethernet
> frames compiled in with at a minimum 8023 &
> SNAP support (& I think ETHER_II for sap/rip):
> device ef
> options ETHER_II
> options ETHER_8023
> options ETHER_8022
> options ETHER_SNAP
> (the ifconfig lines get ridiculous after a while)
>
> I also believe that nwfs.ko & libmchain.ko could be
> loaded as modules, but that ncp didn't play nicely
> when loaded as a module & ipx/spx had to be
> compiled into the kenel.
>
> Good luck.
>
> --
> --

Hi:

  I finally realize what the problem is: Rebuilding the kernel with
"option IPX" will not generate a kernel module, in fact, the ipx code
is built directly into the main kernel image. Therefore, I get ipx
supported. Anyway, thank you for your suggestions.

YC Wang



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