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Date:      Thu, 7 Dec 2023 07:25:23 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org>
Cc:        src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>,  "<dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>" <dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>,  "<dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org>" <dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: git: b1c95af45488 - main - rc.conf: correct $ntp_leapfile_sources
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On Thu, Dec 7, 2023, 12:26 AM Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 2023-12-07 15:06:58 (+0800), Warner Losh wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 6, 2023, 11:34 PM Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >> On 2023-12-07 14:26:05 (+0800), Warner Losh wrote:
> >>> We should point to bipm
> >>> https://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/ntp/leap-seconds.list since
> >>> they
> >>> are
> >>> the source of truth, no?
> >>
> >> I went for the IANA copy because data.iana.org is a much shorter and
> >> trustworthy looking URL.  And it's also where other operating systems
> >> get their copies.
> >>
> >> (There's a thread on the IANA tz mailing list about how up to date
> >> the
> >> IANA copy is.)
> >>
> >
> > Shorter URLs aren't necessarily better..  we should have this be a
> > list
> > though...
>
> We could also mirror our own copy on freebsd.org, but then we have to
> keep it up to date.
>
> That's probably the best solution.  Let me ponder this for a bit.
>

No. That's a terrible idea. We have better things to do with our
infrastructure.  Just make a list of two: nist and bipm.

Warner

Philip
>
> --
> Philip Paeps
> Senior Reality Engineer
> Alternative Enterprises
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 7, 2023, 12:26 AM Philip Paeps &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:philip@freebsd.org">philip@freebsd.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 2023-12-07 15:06:58 (+0800), Warner Losh w=
rote:<br>
&gt; On Wed, Dec 6, 2023, 11:34 PM Philip Paeps &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phili=
p@freebsd.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">philip@freebsd.org</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; On 2023-12-07 14:26:05 (+0800), Warner Losh wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; We should point to bipm<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/ntp/leap-seco=
nds.list" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://hpiers.ob=
spm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/ntp/leap-seconds.list</a> since <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; they<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; are<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; the source of truth, no?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I went for the IANA copy because <a href=3D"http://data.iana.org" =
rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">data.iana.org</a> is a much=
 shorter and<br>
&gt;&gt; trustworthy looking URL.=C2=A0 And it&#39;s also where other opera=
ting systems<br>
&gt;&gt; get their copies.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; (There&#39;s a thread on the IANA tz mailing list about how up to =
date <br>
&gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; IANA copy is.)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Shorter URLs aren&#39;t necessarily better..=C2=A0 we should have this=
 be a <br>
&gt; list<br>
&gt; though...<br>
<br>
We could also mirror our own copy on <a href=3D"http://freebsd.org" rel=3D"=
noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">freebsd.org</a>, but then we have =
to <br>
keep it up to date.<br>
<br>
That&#39;s probably the best solution.=C2=A0 Let me ponder this for a bit.<=
br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">N=
o. That&#39;s a terrible idea. We have better things to do with our infrast=
ructure.=C2=A0 Just make a list of two: nist and bipm.</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Warner</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Philip<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Philip Paeps<br>
Senior Reality Engineer<br>
Alternative Enterprises<br>
</blockquote></div></div></div>

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