Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 23:16:56 -0500 From: Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> To: Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4 does not see up arrow after reinstall/xorg update Message-ID: <CAGBxaX=qirPzzdiYLg2eBSkW6FG5KLscPNEAxT%2BAb1rwV__-1g@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20200223043136.5c088664@bsd64.grem.de> References: <CAGBxaXk0dWwa0kGVLViMRTMSUpdJwMBYgPF4gTBryjHoBzGjPw@mail.gmail.com> <CAGBxaX=qvyTfo0qfehZBH6TLWXSPA562ys-_Sjaqen-fQD01rA@mail.gmail.com> <20200222224756.05f6fad9@bsd64.grem.de> <CAGBxaXmDLweeM0So2YEJh0C7Rw6%2B1=DxuaVtULvUVHrJhEvy8w@mail.gmail.com> <20200222235619.34fbf6f4@bsd64.grem.de> <CAGBxaXnKMB1X4krZGMa=zqeLrRmVAvTjByVvUdBXFGv1DjB8ZA@mail.gmail.com> <20200223004535.291f3fe4@bsd64.grem.de> <CAGBxaXnrdZy4pcN4C-QE2gNGp=5toc0JyCM0Qcjk_=dKQpiKqA@mail.gmail.com> <20200223012919.5131f6a1@bsd64.grem.de> <20200223014551.0ca1e9a2@bsd64.grem.de> <CAGBxaX=8YqXy49Lhh-yF3ErP6EDuxngP5RBdtnDbJxiMyTJaMw@mail.gmail.com> <20200223021448.1347422a@bsd64.grem.de> <CAGBxaX=R9tN0CQ==3sE-g1QxYbVwXMRcxbghnps4CiD%2B3LycnQ@mail.gmail.com> <20200223023739.4d8e34c2@bsd64.grem.de> <CAGBxaXmy7iBtK3emqu3zM=Od_gCYd4mkc54_bMyD3_89U-OzJQ@mail.gmail.com> <20200223030426.033eee5b@bsd64.grem.de> <CAGBxaXkmNzAJPxYbyXaiNayhRwLUpZ=uwdJmjpad=WYu4cet_g@mail.gmail.com> <20200223043136.5c088664@bsd64.grem.de>
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On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:31 PM Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de> wrote: > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 21:32:03 -0500 > Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 9:04 PM Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 20:54:34 -0500 > > > Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 8:37 PM Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 20:20:01 -0500 > > > > > Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 8:15 PM Michael Gmelin > > > > > > <freebsd@grem.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 20:00:17 -0500 > > > > > > > Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 7:46 PM Michael Gmelin > > > > > > > > <freebsd@grem.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 01:29:19 +0100 > > > > > > > > > Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 19:18:19 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 6:45 PM Michael Gmelin > > > > > > > > > > > <freebsd@grem.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 18:22:07 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 5:56 PM Michael Gmelin > > > > > > > > > > > > > <freebsd@grem.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to make a side comment on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > latest xorg update in general: WHAT A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CLUSTERF*CK this is no where near ready for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > production based on the number of people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > complaining about basic I/O problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You already made that comment yesterday :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The point is, cursing won't motivate anyone to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You try losing 3 days of paid work due to > > > > > > > > > > > > > something that claimed to be production ready > > > > > > > > > > > > > and not pull your hair out. Due to lack of > > > > > > > > > > > > > money my desktop and test machine are one in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same so any serious hiccups in ports and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > the base system seriously harm my freelancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > (sole source of income). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you use nvidia, you can remove the kld_list etc > > > > > > > > > > > > (intel won't help you). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You seem to have *a lot* of duplicated inputclass > > > > > > > > > > > > match rules in your configuration files. Not sure > > > > > > > > > > > > how they ended up in there, but in the past they > > > > > > > > > > > > probably didn't matter, as you didn't have a UDEV > > > > > > > > > > > > enabled Xorg server installed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what I asked you to test in 20-edev-kbd.conf > > > > > > > > > > > > was overwritten by later rules in other > > > > > > > > > > > > configuration files. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In general, the way to approach this is to move > > > > > > > > > > > > all those configuration files (except > > > > > > > > > > > > 20-edev-kbd.conf) out of xorg.conf.d. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you start with a system that has no xorg.conf > > > > > > > > > > > > files and only xorg.conf.d/20-edev-kbd.conf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now check if this works. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it doesn't, replace the contents of > > > > > > > > > > > > 20-edev-kbd.conf with what I asked you to test > > > > > > > > > > > > earlier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back the results (shouldn't take more > > > > > > > > > > > > than a couple of minutes). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Impossible to test either one because mouse is > > > > > > > > > > > frozen under both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on your tree output below, you don't have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-evdev-kbd.conf in > > > > > > > > > > place any more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please create it and put the following content in it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Section "InputClass" > > > > > > > > > > Identifier "libinput keyboard catchall" > > > > > > > > > > MatchIsKeyboard "on" > > > > > > > > > > MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*" > > > > > > > > > > Driver "libinput" > > > > > > > > > > Option "XkbRules" "evdev" > > > > > > > > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Section "InputClass" > > > > > > > > > > Identifier "libinput touchpad catchall" > > > > > > > > > > MatchIsTouchpad "on" > > > > > > > > > > MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*" > > > > > > > > > > Driver "libinput" > > > > > > > > > > Option "MiddleEmulation" "on" > > > > > > > > > > Option "DisableWhileTyping" "off" > > > > > > > > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, please make sure moused isn't running > > > > > > > > > > (killall moused) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then test again, report back and include the output of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree /usr/local/etc/X11/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No luck on up arrow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /usr/local/etc/X11/ > > > > > > > > |-- fontpath.d > > > > > > > > |-- xinit > > > > > > > > | |-- xinitrc > > > > > > > > | `-- xinitrc.d > > > > > > > > | `-- 90-consolekit > > > > > > > > `-- xorg.conf.d > > > > > > > > |-- 99-myinput.conf > > > > > > > > `-- driver-nvidia.conf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 directories, 4 files > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you asked for in the email you said to ignore here > > > > > > > > is what nvidia-driver has in it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Section "Device" > > > > > > > > Identifier "NVIDIA Card" > > > > > > > > VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" > > > > > > > > Driver "nvidia" > > > > > > > > Option "RandRRotation" "True" > > > > > > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last things I can think of from the top of my head is > > > > > > > running: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a terminal and see if that makes a difference (that > > > > > > > command comes from the setxkbmap package and should be > > > > > > > installed). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I assume you use a US USB keyboard USB and a USB mouse? > > > > > > > Anything special there or just standard material?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No luck.... Yes USB on both and as far I know nothing special > > > > > > (don't see how their could be on a $5 mouse [store brand, > > > > > > Staples, no model number] and a $15 keyboard [Logitech k120]) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very strange. > > > > > > > > > > Like I said, I have an old macbook here that has some nvidia > > > > > gfx in it - I could try setting that up with an external > > > > > keyboard and mouse and see what happens. > > > > > > > > > > What I find strange is that this only happens with xfce4 and not > > > > > with twm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you get actually get any keyboard events when pressing the > > > > > arrow key in xev? (from "pkg install xev") > > > > > > > > > > > > > KeymapNotify event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x0, > > > > keys: 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > > > > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > > > > 0 > > > > > > But no keydown/keyup events it seems. > > > > > > > The cursor also flashes when I do it in a terminal so clearly it > > > > is getting something. > > > > > > > > > > I'm installing xfce4 on my old macbook here now (12.1-RELEASE, > > > packages from latest). Let's see if I can reproduce it (easily?). > > > It has an nvidia 9400M. > > > > > > Could you try one more thing in the meantime: > > > Add another unprivileged user to your machine (let's say: "xtester") > > > and copy your .xinitrc to that new user. Then login as that user > > > and start X as that new user and see if it's the same problem (just > > > to rule out anything special in your normal user's settings). > > > > > > > As expected no luck. > > > > I installed all of this on the old macbook now. Similar setup to yours, > nvidia graphics adapter. > > Used all standard .conf files (including those > in /usr/local/share/X11/xorg.conf.d - those were a read herring, > sorry). > > Also have one nvivida.conf file there to load the driver. > > I installed xfce4-wm and xfce4-desktop and used your .xinitrc. > > There was only one difference: > > I added > > setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout de > > as the first line of my ~/.xinitrc. > I always do that to get the correct keyboard layout (de). > > Everything seemed to work just fine, no problems, arrow keys work etc. > > Now, when I remove that line from .xinitrc, the keyboard starts to act > up like you described (e.g. arrow up doesn't show the history in xterm). > > Interestingly, it didn't always work immediately after re-adding the > line, I had to restart X a few times. > > So what I would recommend to test is: > > Assuming that you're using an US keyboard, add: > > setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout us > > as the first line of your ~/.xinitrc > > Then reboot your machine (to be safe) and try to run startx. > > Interestingly, running the command after xfce started doesn't fix the > problem, that's probably why my your previous tests with this command > didn't help. Also, changing the keyboard layout using xfce's settings > dialog doesn't fix it either. So it needs to be set before xfce-wm is > started (first line of .xinitrc). > > Let's hope this fixes the issue for you. > > Best, > Michael > > p.s. > # cat ~/.xinitrc > setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout de > xset -dpms > xset s off > nvidia-settings --load-config-only > xhost + > . /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc > Works now who/how do I report this in such a way that it will be fixed the right way and/or note added to /usr/ports/UPDATES so the next person doesn't have to deal with it? > > > -- > Michael Gmelin > -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.orghome | help
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