Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:28:19 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com> To: bsddiy@21cn.com Cc: nate@yogotech.com, asmodai@wxs.nl, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: The Project and onward [was: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_output.c] Message-ID: <20010315002819G.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> In-Reply-To: <1952303922.20010315090121@21cn.com> References: <15023.42384.196115.528084@nomad.yogotech.com> <20010314104836N.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <1952303922.20010315090121@21cn.com>
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> JH> Our strategy has never been anything more "brilliant" than fixing > JH> bugs, updating tools, writing drivers for new hardware > > sigh, is this FreeBSD strategy? if there isn't innovate in FreeBSD in > furture, I'd leave away now. :( I think you're confused - please read what I said again. I'm describing a state of affairs, I'm not saying FreeBSD will never be innovative. I rather hope it will be, in fact. Nate and I fundamentally disagree as to where one defines *any*, operating system vendor as "innovative" today. I don't happen to think that any one of the mainstream players are truly innovative, not Linux, not Microsoft, not Sun, not even BSD, and I don't care how many times you rewrite the VM system or create new filesystems for any of the above. To do any of that is to simply *extend* things within your classic design model, you're not doing the software equivalent of jumping from incandescent to fluorescent lighting or going from piston to jet-powered aircraft. Those are the sorts of things I consider truly worthy of the term "innovative" and that's all I've really been arguing for the last few iterations here. SMPng will be great stuff. The merged VM/Buffer cache was great stuff when it came out. I'm pretty proud of the ports collection. All of that was splendid *evolution* in action and I think FreeBSD has a lot more evolving ahead of it. And that's the last I'll say on this whole sorry subject - it's become largely a semantic argument. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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