Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:30:41 +0200 From: "Jose M Rodriguez" <josemi@freebsd.jazztel.es> To: "Michael Nottebrock" <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plans for after FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE. Message-ID: <opseqc5fwo6abrq7@localhost.redesjm.local> In-Reply-To: <200409221503.10247.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> References: <opsep5jxuy6abrq7@localhost.redesjm.local> <200409221503.10247.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:03:08 +0200, Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> wrote: > On Wednesday 22 September 2004 12:46, Jose M Rodriguez wrote: > >> - Plans to work and standard FreeBSD way to X11 >> + An implementation guide common to x11/gnome/kde (document -> >> article | handbook) >> - Plans to work on a FreeBSD 'feeling'. Same fonts, ... >> + tweaks to apps-defaults, gnome and kde config. >> + common process of resources. Xresources , Xmodmap, ... >> - Plans to specific support easy thenmeing 'a la FreeBSD'. > > I'm rather sceptical about those. You need to remember that FreeBSD > isn't a > commercial linux distribution with their own art department and people > who > specialise in enforcing a common look'n'feel. > I don't think so. And we doesn't have the resources of, let say, Mandrakesoft. Also, FreeBSD gnome, kde and x11 projects are, more o less, independent. > If this should really happen, we'd need more than just a few new scripts > - > we'd need a team of people dedicated to make it work, keep it working and > deal with the constant flaming of users that don't like the new common > look'n'feel. And, as we haven't a splendit car, we can't even walk. I'm talking about simple and reallistik thinks like: - Have a simple document about how xinit, xdm, and so must work. - What to put in ~/.login or /.profile, and what in ~/.xprofile - who to use ~/.xinitrc and know when gdm/kdm/xdm must use it. - Try to reuse the basic xinit/xdm config from gdm/kdm. - Try to get a real failsafe X login. - Try to get the same defaults colours and font on xterms ... > > My own humble opinion is that it is probably more realistic to do those > things > in your specific project where you're in control anyway. Unifying the big > desktop environments is a big task, and so far I'm not aware of any > project > which managed to do it without more or less taking the look&feel of one > and > stomping it on the other (for example, Redhat went mostly for GNOME, SuSE > mostly went for KDE). > Agree. This is not the point. >> + rcNG support for x11 >> * /etc/rc.d/xdm. operative and valid for gdm/kdm/xdm >> * /etc/rc.d/xfs? we need a font server with libXFT >> trends? >> * /etc/rc.d/xserver. Xserver init for XDMCP (XTerminal) >> * /etc/rc.d/xinit. Special init via xinit. > > Those things are probably doable. > -- josemi -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
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