Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 20:34:21 -0500 From: Jacob Suter <jsuter@linus.intrastar.net> To: Richard Hodges <rh@alpine.net> Cc: dennis <dennis@etinc.com>, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multi-homed - Load Balancing - No Single Point of Failure Message-ID: <33F3B21D.BBD4B7FA@linus.intrastar.net> References: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970814115824.10933D-100000@oak.alpine.net>
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Another thing. ET does provide a demo program... for what is it, $10/day for up to 30 days? Looks reasonable to me... I wish I could have gotten that for most of the hardware I have purchased in the past. JS Richard Hodges wrote: > On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, dennis wrote: > > > >My "typical" router is one T1 and one Ethernet. > > > > > >Etinc: (new) Ascend: (new) cisco: (used) > > >--------------- --------- ----------- > > > $550 5025 card $1025 Pipeline 130 $1200 2501 (used) > > > $125 cable $ n/a v.35 cable n/a $ ?? cable may be > included > > > $400 DSU/CSU $ n/a DSU/CSU $ 400 DSU/CSU > > >---- ------ ----- > > >$1075 (w/o host) $1025 ready to go $1600 ready to go > > > > > >+ $50 to add F/R + 0 included $ 0 included > > > > Well, almost..its $585. for a card and a cable (Perhaps you confused > > > our cable with Cisco's?), and $375 for a CSU/DSU, so you are > > talking $960. > > Ok. Your web page said the cable was not included, and the v.35 > cable below had a price of $125. So I just figured... > > > For slow, single port routers....yeah, you may be right. Of course > > no one makes any money on a low-end router anyway, so who > > cares? > > If I need several low-end routers, then *I* care. > > > >Yes, I *DO UNDERSTAND* that *BSD is much more powerful for > > >routing... But I know how to set up cisco and Ascend. > > > > This, is a personal problem. If you *don't* the learning curve is > similar. > > I understand FreeBSD better than you think. Your cards I do not. > > > >Your web page documentation could benefit greatly if you would put > > >your manuals, tips, and configuration information online. You see, > > > >I want to know everything about the job *BEFORE I BUY*. > > > > If you're talking to ET, it IS up there, so perhaps we're on a > different > > wavelength. > > I would love to read your product manuals and configuration guides. > (That is really what I am asking for.) What are the URLs? > > > >If I could get your basic 5025 with cable for $250 to $300, I would > > > >probably get one for experimentation. > > > Perhaps, some day, when we are really hard up for business we > > will consider such a *program*.... :-) But for now things are pretty > > > much booming.... > > If I knew your products were better than my other options, I would be > willing to pay more. Since I do not know that, my "experimental" > budget is smaller. > > > >I hope you don't take this as a grip, but if you do, please > consider > > >it that I really would like to try your products... but the price > is > > >too high and I need a chance to build confidence in them. > > > The price is *approproiate*. > > You have not demonstrated your products' full value (yet) TO ME... > > > For $300. its not worth the trouble dealing with you... > > That is a funny way to phrase it... But I understand. > > If the customer is not saying "yes", then you must educate your > customer > until he understands why the product is worth what you are asking. > > All the best, > > -Richard > > -------------------------------------------- > Richard Hodges | (702) 888-3000 > Alpine Internet | 400 Fairview Drive > rh@alpine.net | Carson City, NV 89701 > member, ISP/C
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