Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:23:01 -0600 From: Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org> To: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [heads up] axing AppleTalk and IPX/SPX Message-ID: <1382988181.1170.249.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> In-Reply-To: <139F9446-64B8-4105-AEFB-4F90EDB44792@lassitu.de> References: <20131028124221.GO52889@glebius.int.ru> <139F9446-64B8-4105-AEFB-4F90EDB44792@lassitu.de>
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On Mon, 2013-10-28 at 19:54 +0100, Stefan Bethke wrote: > Am 28.10.2013 um 13:42 schrieb Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>: >=20 > > The plan is two axe two old networking protocols from FreeBSD head/, > > meaning that FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE, available in couple of years would > > be shipped without them. > >=20 > > 1) AppleTalk > >=20 > > Last time claimed to be supported by vendor in 2007[1]. In practice > > had very little use since 90th. > > Discontinued by major routing equipment vendors since 2009[2]. >=20 > Since Apple has now even deprecated AFP (the file sharing protocol impl= emented by netatalk, among others), it=A2s time to let go. >=20 > There=A2s a thriving historic enthusiast community around older Macs an= d Apple IIs, and I can report that FreeBSD 4 (including then-current vers= ions of netatalk and for those who care, macipgw) works just fine in Virt= ualBox, on FreeBSD 9-stable. Newer FreeBSD versions will likely work as w= ell. Since AppleTalk (DDP and the layer 3 protocols on top of it) were or= iginally tuned for LocalTalk and it=A2s 230.4 kbps rate, running a virtua= lized OS on even very modest hardware will likely incur no performance pe= nalty, so just shove a VM onto any old box. >=20 Remember too that what's really being said here is that it will be gone from 11; it's still in FreeBSD 10, and that means FreeBSD will still support those protocols (as much as possible given the lack of upstream support) for many years to come. Think of this as "You have about 4 years to make other arrangements before this support is gone." -- Ian
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